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Hw80 V Hw95 Why The Price Difference?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Mike Watkins, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. Mike Watkins

    Mike Watkins Woody Woodgate

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    I've just read the post about an HW80 for sale on Freeads and it got me looking at the prices of new Weihrauchs. My question to all you HW aficionados is why does 80 cost so much more than the 95 and even some 97 variants?

    I have a 95K (about six months old), what would I find different with the 80?
     
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    keithy Big Poster

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    To be honest all the hw break barrel springers should cost around the same to manufacture, But the popularity of some models effects there prices. The hw80 is a more robust break barrel springer than the 95, however the increased recoil due to bigger internals makes them difficult to shoot in standard spec, its difficult to keep them under the limit while they are bedding in from new.
     
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    Gary Jones Pro Poster

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    I couldn't get on with my 80. Which really annoyed me as it's the only brand new gun I ever bought.

    Sold it on to a fellow member on here about 3 weeks into ownership. The fact it's a right handed stock didn't help matters for me being a lefty and also I couldn't get a good head position. I always think I should of opted for the cheaper 95k with its ambi stock but people say there also hold sensitive/tricky to master so in the end I think I went in the right direction and bought a tx200hc in a dedicated left hand walnut stock. Which is a better gun than the 95 and 80 full stop :thumb:
     
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    telephonepete Donator

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    No doubt about that at all:thumb:
     
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  5. Geezer

    Geezer Big Poster

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    1. Because that’s what people will pay for an icon, whether or not it’s worth it.

    2. Because the 95 uses slightly less steel, and has a cheaper to make way of holding on the end-block (“tiles” not screw-in).

    But mostly the former. Look at it this way, would most people pay more for a 95 than an 80? No.

    This was the problem with the 95’s predecessor the old 1986-vintage 85, sold in the US as the Beeman R10, which had a screw-in block (and a BSF-derived scope rail). It cost so close to the 80 that, especially in markets like the US with no power limits, the vast majority of buyers opted for the 80. Bigger, heavier, more powerful, must be better...

    The old 85/R10 sold badly. It is now, inevitably, sought after on both sides of the Atlantic by those who appreciate its merits.
     
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    dave 2 stroke Posting Addict

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    i had hw77 and venom arms hw80k with there silencer this was back in 90s and i loved my 80 and my 77 am not a fan of the new hws pcp or springers just dont think they make then like they used to
     
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  7. Mike Watkins

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    I bought a new 95K earlier this year and have found it an excellent rifle, I’m a lefty too. It wasn’t to hold sensitive although was much nicer once I fitted a Tinbum kit.
     
  8. Oat

    Oat Stick to your guns

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    The cheaper HW's are chinese built. The more expensive ones are german built.
    :p
     
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    Mike Watkins Woody Woodgate

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    Is my 95K Chinese built???
     
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    Claypole Keyboard Hero

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    No, no, not at all. The actions, along with the trigger are made in China, and so are the stocks, but they are then shipped to Germany where somebody screws them together.
     
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    shauny Top Poster

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    dont start now!
     
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    Well that’s burst my bubble! I thought Weihrauch were wholly German made!! Oh well, mustn’t grumble, they are still dam fine guns.
     
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    What makes me laugh is the fact that after they are assembled in Germany, they’re then shipped back to China to get tested, then the stocks are treated, and finally they stamp the writing onto the action, including the part that says “Made in Germany”

    They are then shipped back to Germany for distribution to the dealers. Unbelievable really...
     
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    foxtrott I'll be back

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    Chinese takeaway:laff:
     
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    Scrinja EGO dont facere fatuis

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    shauny Top Poster

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    now you just being sillyo_O
     
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    Geezer Big Poster

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    Evidence? Proof?
     
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    shauny Top Poster

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    its a wind up pal
     
  19. Oat

    Oat Stick to your guns

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    Can't believe people are still taking the bait :D
     
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    its on tinernet,its got to be true!:rolleyes:
     
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