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Hw80 Not Cocking

Discussion in 'Technical' started by JimboM, Oct 12, 2019 at 5:01 PM.

  1. JimboM

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    I've had to strip my HW80 down to shorten the spring slightly but now that it's reassembled the thing refuses to cock.
    After much playing about I suspect the trigger assembly is at fault as when pressing the top lever down it doesn't latch and I have to 'help' it by pressing the back lever into place.

    Has anyone come across this issue before Is it likely to be fixable or am I going to have to get a whole new assembly?

    Thanks
     
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    I don't know the answer to your problem myself mate.......but I know someone who certainly will be able to advise you on these......and more.
    @shauny
    Best of luck.
    Walter :up:
     
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    it may be coil bound ie the spring is to long, look the the grove so you van see the spring as you cock it.
     
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    have you adjusted the trigger sear ? it may have been adjusted tooo much
     
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    When you put the trigger unit back in did you cock the trigger unit first, then release after?
     
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    I didn't play with the trigger assembly at all, just removed it and put back as was

    I've tried assembling the rifle with the trigger cocked and uncocked but with the same issue ie to cock the trigger I have to push the rear lever into place so that it latches

    Thanks
     
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  7. shauny

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    poss knocked the little tab out of line,only take a wee knock
     
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    Sorry Shauny I'm no expert with these - where's the little tab?
     
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    there is a little dogleg tab on the corner of the unit, these are often the cause for guns not cocking,if they have taken a knock.
     
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    You could well have crushed the trigger housing slightly when putting the locating pins back in. This occurs if the holes aren't lined up when you put the pins in and stops the sears moving. I've had them sent to me for repair damaged like this.

    Remove the trigger unit again and set the trigger and test it to ensure it works. Make sure you put a piece of 2mm metal rod through the hole at the top of the housing to restrict the movement of the upper sear, this prevents damage to the lower sear.

    Look at the housing to see if there are any dents or pinching. With the trigger set (as it would be if the gun was cocked) hold the housing tight and see if the trigger won't break, gradually release it to see if it then works. Obviously if it's not working outside thebgun you immediately have your answer.

    If you start there and come back with your findings I can then advise you further.
     
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    Usually find shortening the spring guide works
     
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    Or as Shauny rightly says you have to cock the trigger mechanism before refitting and then release it.
     
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    Finally managed to have another look at the gun tonight and it's two steps forwards one step back :)

    As per Shauny's suggestion I bent the 'little tab' back a bit and the trigger cocked nicely!

    Re-assembeled everything and the gun cocked but wouldn't fire - grrrrrrr

    Stripped down and tried assembly again but without the safety installed and everything worked OK

    Tried reassembly again with the safety and with the trigger cocked and gun cocked and fired :) However the safety then pinged out of the gun and I've now lost the spring :(

    So where's the best place to get a new safety spring and are there any tricks to getting the safety installed correctly ??

    Thanks
     
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  14. shauny

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    a cheap biro from the pound shop
     
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    Happy for ya Jimbo. Shauny is the main man for sure.:thumb:
     
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    The legendary 'biro trick' is a tried and tested 'tool' that never fails. I have one to hand at all times when working on my springer. :):up:
     
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    Just to confuse the issue for you the tab that you bent holds the safety in also:rolleyes:
    They can be a real pain in the A$$ to get right Dude
     
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    Great, can see this is going to be a trial of patience :) I'll source a biro tomorrow - probably from the wife's handbag!

    Big thanks to everyone that's taken the time to reply :up:
     
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    Keep at it Jimbo. You'll get there mate. I was in the same boat as you a while back. Sat there scratching my head and falling asleep at the table with a pile of bits in front of me until 3am one Sunday!! I'm sorry I can't help you mate, I'm still learning it all myself. But you will find the answer on here for sure mate. Stick at it bud.
    All the best.
    Walter :up:
     
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    He's only shortnend the spring so not relevant.
     
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