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HW45 vs Diana/Original 6G @ 8m

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Tinbum, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Its been pretty stressful in the last few days, so I decided to take a beak and actually do some shooting. I have an adhoc 8m outdoor range to play in, and my weapons of choice were my HW45 and Diana Mod 6G. I'm not very good with a pistol, and these were just a quick ten shots through each to see how different they were.

    Can you guess which is which? (Btw, the shot in the three ring on the left was fired at the right hand target!)
     
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    HW45 at the top?
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Lucky guess!:D

    I know the 45's tamed considerably with the fitted kit, but with the Diana being a recoilless (GISS) system I expected much more!

    Could it be the pellets? I know it should have lovely, light flat heads, but that's no excuse for spraying them around like this! :confused:
     
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    My daughter (23 yrs old ) , using my HW45 (28 yrs old) 6 metres , 1 hand. :cool: View attachment 101549 She also has a "hand-and-a-half" Claymore she can swing with great accuracy. So I don't mess with her - Much! :D
     
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    Well, I agree thats rubbish with a Model 6 - Considering that your HW45 group is somewhere near reasonable (width wise).

    Perhaps you're anticipating recoil, being more used to the big ole '45?

    As you say, you'll have to try some flatcutters first, but I doubt that'll be a miracle cure tbh.

    Another thing to try is stepping in a few paces closer, to see if the groups tighten right up :)
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    I'm not keen on that to be honest Phil. It would leave me open to seagull attack and possible Melanomas from excessive exposure to the bright, almost tropical, sun down here.

    Would moving the target closer to me work just as well?
     
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    How the **** would I know? That's not in my "Observer's Book of Pistol Shooting" :confused: :D
     
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    I shall make a dedicated 6 yd range tomorrow and grow a couple of palms to shade the area. A fake bird of prey on a string should protect me from gulls, so I think we're sorted!

    I'll be back:cool:
     
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    Or, you could just use a small 6 yard portion of your lounge, or drawing room... Oh, whoops! I forgot how small your Cornish cottages are... You'd have to knock-through about three of them. Arf arf :D
     
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    A bit of an update. I enjoy using the Diana so much I put almost a whole tin of pellets through it at the club on Sunday. The gun changed markedly over the day and has now risen from 370 to 445fps and was regularly hitting 20mm spinners @ 25 yards, and that was with open sights!

    I think it just needed to be used......
     
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    The HW45 is capable of this - with a bit of practice ;)
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    I can't see that far nowadays
     
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    Me neither! :D
    Arthritis is a nuisance too ! :( My daughter puts me to shame with the HW45 nowadays. See pic on post #4
     
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    Its just great getting older ....... :D
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Yeah, i have no problems grouping with the 45, it was the lack of grouping with the mod 6G I was questioning.
     
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    I see your future clearly - Stick with the HW45 , and bin the 6G :D
    Yes, I understood your first post. But the HW is capable of a far tighter group than you got it post 1. (see daughters target in post #4). The 6G is shooting a far looser group. Is the barrel dirty/ damaged? Breech leaking? You never hear people extolling the virtues of the 6G, meanwhile you hear plenty from the HW45 fan club.....:first:
     
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    Had a 6M for a number of years, yes they need to be used but when did you last clean the barrel properly? Not talking about just firing a few wads down it. The spread in your first photo is a bit random which I would make me think not so much fluctuating velocity as I would expect a more vertical pattern.
     

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