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HW45, how long has it been in production

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by robthedog, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. robthedog

    robthedog Busy Member

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    As the title, anyone know how long its been in production ? just idle interest on a Saturday morning, as my wife is making me do stuff instead of going to the range.

    Rob
     
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    Too bloody long horrible guns.


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    Mid 1980s IIRC
     
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    Also known as the Beeman P1 - 1985 mate
     
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    Many thanks gents,

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    I've got one made in early 1985. Only found that out when I tried to buy a new breach seal for it. The seal is smaller on the very early ones. Don't use it much, but prefer it to the later one with the fibre sights.
     
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    You have one of the first ones then mate
     
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    landymick Keyboard Hero

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    I first saw it advertised as new in Jan 1986.
     
  9. Meteor62

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    I had mine tuned by venom arms after seeing a custom job on a hw45 with beautiful Don Blocksidge engraving In an airgun mag in the 80’s. Unfortunately when it came back it didn’t seem any different to how it was out of the box. Horrible loose cocking linkage that dragged over the spring on the return stroke after cocking and a very sloppy fit. I bought a much later model years later and it was exactly the same. I do know some people love them and manage to tame them with experience and to them they enjoy the challenge.
     
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    Out of the box the cocking experience is horrible. It is because HW fit the mainspring guide tube INSIDE the piston instead of at the rear of the mainspring, consequentially the mainspring buckles each time the pistol is cocked. They fit it this way to add weight to the piston and that coupled with the combustible grease inside ensures that there is slight ignition .....thus giving the advertised six fpe power output.
    They need stripping, degreasing and the guide tube fitting the correct way round. This done you get a smooth cocking, reduced recoil, accurate pistol producing slightly less power ( 5 to 5.5 fpe), ...... more than enough.
    Pete.
     
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    Serial number 350948. I understand the serial numbers start at 350000. Bought it s/h about 18 months ago, superbly made gun, still looks new.
     
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    Post a pic up mate, I quite like these
     
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    20180115_232848.jpg
     
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    There's some piccys of a very nice current one in the for sale section. It cocks like silk and has a lovely trigger too!
     
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    I ave just bought a new one, one heck of a pistol except I find the standard grip
    a little small. I improved it with a rubber grip sleeve from China (£1.60)
    The recoil is rather like my Webley Tempest so quite easy to deal with.
    I tuned the old one but to be honest, just adding thrust washers each end of
    the spring made most difference allowing the spring to "unwind" smoothly.
     
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    I thought I was getting half decent with my Black Star, but I've just got back from a session with it where I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn! Back out tomorrow.
     
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    The earliest I can see on the Weihrauch database is 300652 dated March 1985. You might like to add yours to The List at http://www.weihrauch-database.eu/thelist
    hth
    Jim
     
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    Nice little video of it here, starting at 6mins 45seconds:

     
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    I bought one in silver 1986/7 when I started my apprenticeship, it was 2-3 weeks wages then.
    Got it from Burgers Discount Armoury.
     

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