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Hw110 Problem

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Kizzy, Dec 16, 2018.

  1. Kizzy

    Kizzy Engaging Member

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    Hi guys, just got my new HW110 lastnight and today I used a manual pump to put 150bar in the cyclinder just to sight it in. No problem there, went to town for a few hours with the wife and kids and when we came home i decided to have a plink about my land so I decided to refill before leaving.... problem is that the cyclinder wont pump above 50 bar for some reason, almost like the air won't go in to the cyclinder. If I bleed off the pump, the pump is pumping fine and reconnect it won't let me pump above 50 bar for some reason. Beyond annoyed since it's less than 24hr in my possession! Any help much appreciated....
     
  2. mikey

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    If it was mine it would be going straight back to the shop
     
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    I would but it is 2 hr drive back down and another 2 hrs back home! .....and if I was to go straight from work tomorrow it would be 4 hrs down and 2 hrs home...
     
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    See if you can find someone local with a dive bottle to fill it...not sure if it will cure the problem but it’s worth giving it a try
     
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    Firstly pull the side lever back, leave it back and try to pump
     
  6. Kizzy

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    Yeah I was in contact with a friend of mine who had a dive bottle but has since sold it unfortunately, but has said I can try his manual pump tomorrow just to eliminate mine from the equation. Typically this would happen!
     
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    Tried that, tried it cocked, tried it uncocked, tried it with cocking lever open and no joy
     
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    Marky-Boy Just The One + 1

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    Do you regret not getting a HW100?
     
  9. Kizzy

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    I had a HW100 and it was worth it's weight in gold but ended up trading it few years ago and got into long range shooting. Bought the HW110 and collected it lastnight and would you believe that my old HW100 was sitting in a gun case in the shop lastnight, 4yrs after I traded it and it was destroyed! The guy that bought it from the gun dealer stored it in a shed and it was covered in rust and chipped timber stock and pitted. I nearly cried when I saw it....
     
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    On this occasion are you trying to fill a completely empty cylinder?
     
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    No, it was down to about 20 so I was topping up from there and only got to 50ish and the pump would not anymore in, almost as of it was beyond full, the pump wouldn't even cycle there was that much back pressure and like I said I bled off the excess air and the pump works fine :confused:
     
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    Went out there and used up all the air in the cyclinder and tried to refill and same problem as before, only fills to 50 and that's it...
     
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    At this juncture it’s one of two things..

    1- Theres dirt in the fill valve and if so a blast from a bottle will clear it.

    2- It’s the pump it self not going to second stage when pumping.
     
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    Hopefully I'll get my hands on my mates pump tomorrow and see if his will do the job.....nothing else I can do in the mean time!
     
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    Where you based ? Someone local could help you
     
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    Sounds like the pump's goosed. I've never known the valves stick shut in these guns but even if it did, this would manifest itself as the pump would continue to operate, pushing up the line pressure between it and the gun which would be registered on the pressure gauge.

    If the pump's gauge is only showing 50bar but the pump won't complete its stroke / the handle rebounds it suggests a non-return valve in the pump is shafted. Try another charging source if possible!
     
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    Sligo, north west rep. Of ireland
     
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    Must be the pump. In a last ditch effort just there I located the bleed valve on the cyclinder itself for draining the air for long term storage and left it open and pumped air through with the pump and it flowed no problem, so if there was a blockage it should've at least cleared from the entry point. I closed the bleed valve and pumped again and yet again it stopped about 50.... has to be the pump....
     
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    Sounds like you've got it nailed, then ;)
     
  20. Kizzy

    Kizzy Engaging Member

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    If it is the pump than stay away from Kral pumps :facepalm:

    I'll know tomorrow and put up the result! If it is the pump than I have a hell of a journey back for my €200!
     
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