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Hw110 Carbine Vs Hw100 Carbine

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Achilles, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. Achilles

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    Hi all

    I was hoping some of you have handled any of these and would be able to make a comparison in how loud these are? As I live in a country that does not have power limits (yet) in regards to air rifles, 12 ft/lbs rifles are rarer than hen's teeth and hard if not impossible to come by.

    I read that the hw110 is one of the quietest air rifles out there, but since I cannot for the life of me find a shop that has it in 12 ft/lbs in .22 calibre I was wondering if the HW100 carbine is as quiet? (better chance at finding one of those, I hope.)

    Why quiet? I don't have a very big yard and very nosy neighbours, so discretion is key. I don't mind the "loopy" .22 since the target will almost always be at the same distance with the added benefit of better air use, less penetration and less noise. So just a decent, discreet rifle for everyday plinking that (if possible) can be serviced by myself.

    Thank you all for your time,

    Kind regards
     
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  2. Pedro2504

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    Hi there, although I can’t comment on the rifles you mentioned as I don’t own or have ever shot one, but what I would say is in the vast majority of cases a really good Silencer or Shroud, or a combination of both is the answer to quietening down any air rifle. I use a Weihrauch Silencer on my BSA Ultra SE and a Swift Stumpy modular version on my Crosman 2250 xl and these both do a fantastic job in reducing the report of the guns to negligible levels and definitely keep my neighbours more than happy.
    Good Luck
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  3. George Mcmillan

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    I have an HW100KT but haven’t tried the full size version, the carbine is very quiet which is down to the Weihrauch moderator on it . I use mine for hunting but also use it from time to time in my garden for plinking there is more noise from the pellet hitting home than from the muzzle .
     
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    They'll both be very quiet with the newest HW moderator. I have one on my hw100(sub 12) and it's very close to silent
     
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    Is there a 'newest HW moderator. What is different to the standard moderator been around for awhile
     
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    I don't know how but they made it even quieter, it's no longer tapered like the usual mod
    Screenshot_20201110_135309.jpg
     
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  7. busanga

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    Interesting will have to check it out. My HW100 has the tapered one
     
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    Me to I have the tapered one I think my gun is three years old .
     
  9. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Too much keyboard, not enough action!

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    If you want to service it yourself you'd be better off with the HW100. Both have the same silencer; the tapered version has been superceded. There's not much difference in noise.
     
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    Why have two versions a 9 and a 10 baffle ? Is this a calibration thing ? What am I not getting here ?
     
  12. Lev Levvin

    Lev Levvin Beast of Bodmin !!

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    I have hw100 ks .22 carbine and also hw100 bp carbine .177

    both are VERY LOUD INDEED without a moderator

    the .177 being worse

    all carbines are louder than full length versions

    there’s no escaping the fact that pcp’s have a very loud crack without a moderator fitted (or a moderated shroud)

    there’s no difference between hw100 and hw110 in sound... but the 110 is of far less build quality than the all-metal hw100
     
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    i has a 110 and it was whisper quiet!
     
  14. Paul-t-b

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    Both are very quiet with either the old or new moderators. I have a HW100 with the older moderator and it’s whisper quiet. I honestly can’t see how it could be much quieter.

    The only thing I would mention is the shot count on the Weihrauch is lower than some comparable models. The fact it’s a popular hunting rifle means it’s not like you are doing 5 mags per session so it’s not really a problem but a gun above 12ft/lbs will use the air quicker so you are not going to get 100+ shots out of a fill.
    The HW110 is slightly more efficient on air compared to the HW100 but many people ( me included ) prefer the engineering in the 100. ( this is reflected in the prices )

    If I was also being picky the HW100 is slightly heavy, but given my other guns have carbon fibre bottles it will fill more heavy.
    A popular upgrade is a lighter bottle that takes a higher fill pressure but lots of people like to leave the guns alone.

    Both are very accurate and reliable which is why they are popular. Like any product there are bad ones that slip through but Weihrauch have a loyal following for a reason.


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    As you don’t say where you are from and haven’t filled in your profile we can only guess if you are allowed moderators. A well set up 100k or 110k with the W moderator or a decent aftermarket made one will probably present more noise from the pellet hitting its target than the report.
     
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    Lev Levvin Beast of Bodmin !!

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    Don’t know what that is but it’s certainly not a genuine weihrauch silencer / moderator !!

    Genuine HW don’t have the metal cones... only cheapy Chinese efforts use this...

    HW have plastic baffles and sound deadening materials... they’re arguably the best available bar none

    many try to mimic hw but don’t better them
     
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    Ah so these are not genuine weihrauch..good to know. I didnt pay attention
     
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    What country are you in ? Go on tell us :D
     
  19. pjgtech

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    The are both pretty quiet. :up:
    You can also make it quieter by using a good backstop with sound deadening materials in and around it and by shooting from inside your house, or inside a shed or covering. All that together will reduce most of the sound.
    Good luck with it... :thumb:
     
  20. Crom

    Crom Crom is your Göd

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    Rifles are a little quieter. .22 being the quieter of the calibres at 12ft lb and have a smoother firing cycle.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2020

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