1. The Forum Rules have undergone some minor changes and updates.  Please take the time to read them; it will only take a couple of minutes of your time. By doing so, you lessen the chance of incurring the wrath of the moderation team or making yourself look foolish to other members.

    90% of users posting adverts in the Sales forums need to be reminded to read the rules as their posts are wrong.  This is unnecessarily time-consuming and will no longer happen - if your advert doesn't follow the Sales Rules it will be deleted and you'll have to start all over again.

    To close this box once you've read it (and the Rules), click on the X in the top right-hand corner.

    Thank you.

    AGF Staff



    Dismiss Notice
  2. A reminder of one of the Forum Rules:

    'Behaviour

    Do not make inappropriate or offensive posts - including threats, harassment, swearing, prejudice, defamation, deliberate insults or name-calling, other negative remarks about this forum, its moderators and administrators or your fellow members. Even if this is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS.'

    There have been changes made to our censoring software in an attempt to help with this growing problem.

    Click the X in the top-right-hand corner to dismiss this notice.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Dear members,

    Our membership (like our country) consists of people from all walks of life; different in far more ways than can be listed here and each with a different view based on their experience of life - regardless of their colour, religion or cultural heritage. Every single person in the UK has been born of mixed race – we are a multi-coloured and multi-cultural country.

    As many of you are aware there are a handful of individuals amongst this membership that persist in making provocative, inflammatory, racist and otherwise offensive comments. This has been happening across the forum to a certain degree but is most especially prevalent in the Adult section.

    The moderation team has tried to stay on top of this, however unfortunately because of the ‘offensive’ nature of much of its content we don’t monitor the Adult section quite as much as perhaps we should. As a result much of this behaviour has gone unnoticed unless it has been reported to us. While the team always intended to take a "light touch" approach to the Adult section it would seem that some people aren’t quite adult enough to be left unmonitored after all.

    This behaviour is, and always has been against Forum Rules as well as the specific stipulations of the Adults forum and it will no longer be tolerated. We feel it's time to draw a line in the sand and as such from this point onward offenders will receive an immediate and permanent ban from the forum.

    In order for us to achieve our goal of restoring the forum to the friendly and tolerant place it once was, we ask that ALL members be mindful of the content they post and help us to stop unacceptable behaviour by using the 'Report' tool at the bottom of any offending post - the results of which can be seen only by Admin/Moderators.

    You should all receive a copy of this message by PM. 

    To close this message box, click on the 'X' in the top-right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice
  4. Hotmail block emails from us entering your inbox. Unless you can setup a safe sender you will not get activation emails from the forum. Please use an alternative provider or complain to Hotmail.
    Hotmail addresses include.

    @Hotmail.co.uk @Hotmail.com @outlook.com @Live.com
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Postings on Politics, Religion & Controversial Off-Topic Material

    The majority of users do not want to read about these subjects and people have left the forum as a result of it – this is after all an 'Airgun' Forum. It’s all very well to say they don’t have to read it if they don't want to, but as most of us use the ‘New Posts’ button there is no easy way to avoid it.

    All AGF staff members are in favour of people being able to discuss what they want, but we have to draw the line somewhere if it is upsetting other users. We don’t want to read about these topics either.

    IMPORTANT- The discussion of politics and religion is no longer allowed anywhere on the forum (including the Adult section).  The only exception is if it's airgun related - they must be put in the Airgun Related Politics section..

    We will not tolerate bullying or personal attacks, racism or any other offensive 'isms'. we will remove these topics from the forum, we will not give you an area where you can abuse each other. We will not hesitate to ban offenders.

    To clear this text box, click on the 'X' in the top right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice

Hw100

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by lurchermann, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. lurchermann

    lurchermann Busy Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Middlands
    Are hw100 regulated as standed out the box?even a old 2004 one?atb
     
  2. Seanalf

    Seanalf Engaging Member

    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Abertillery
  3. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

    Messages:
    16,244
    Likes Received:
    5,275
    Location:
    St. Andrews, Jockland.
  4. tomsteebs

    tomsteebs Donator

    Messages:
    2,944
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    South Leicestershire
    Unfortunately :)
     
  5. mikey

    mikey Pro Poster

    Messages:
    5,360
    Likes Received:
    327
    Location:
    north yorkshire
    When people speak of regulators, most people think of a device inside the air reservoir.
    The HW100 has a device that performs the task of a regulator, but the device is located in the front half of the action block.
     
  6. mikey

    mikey Pro Poster

    Messages:
    5,360
    Likes Received:
    327
    Location:
    north yorkshire
    I found this from a previous thread

    All internals are the same on all models, so yes it is regulated
    This comes up every so often because the HW100 doesn't have what is regarded as a typical regulator as fitted to other PCP's, it has a system of bellville (Spelling might be wrong) washers which do regulate the amount of air for each shot. If the air is measured and regulated then the gun has a reg
     
  7. mattyts

    mattyts Donator

    Messages:
    6,190
    Likes Received:
    139
    Location:
    Yorkshire
    It's not a conventional regulator but it puts out a consistent output so it is still a regulator :up:
     
  8. Egg

    Egg Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,460
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    Dunfermline
    +1 what Mikey & Matty say.
     
  9. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

    Messages:
    18,190
    Likes Received:
    16,421
    Location:
    Oxfordshire
    All this confusion over the HW100's reg status amuses me.. tbh to anyone who knows a bit about regs (admittedly this isn't a huge amount of people) it's quite clear that the HW100 has a regulator.

    In addition its design is not particularly unconventional - it uses a sprung piston to control a valve that regulates the output pressure from the cylinder to a consistent value. The reg's output pressure being proportional to the spring load on the piston. The use of disc springs (as opposed to coil springs) seems to confuse people; although they do the same thing and many regs in the past have used disc springs (or even pressurised air in the case of the Air Arms 100 series regs; which is a lot more unusual).

    Another thing that seems to cause confusion is the fact that a ball bearing seating on an O-ring is used to control flow through the reg; rather than the more common Acetal or Nylon valve. This is good stuff for us as the parts are far cheaper and more easily available.

    The reg is smaller than some you might find in other guns and is inside the gun's action block rather than its cylinder.. neither of these make it any less a reg either. Even if the design operated via a highly-trained team of miniature monkies working remotely from the surface of the moon; as long as it provided a constant output pressure it would still be a reg!

    Ultimately it provides a constant (regulated) output pressure to the gun as the cylinder pressure falls, and follows the principals of conventional reg design. It's not "something that works like a reg", a "flow limiting device" or anything else one might care to call it - it's a fugging regulator :p

    There's an interesting debate on this subject on Shooting the Breeze. A member has a pop at Airgun Shooter for stating in a review that the gun wasn't regged, the editor (Nigel Allen) joined and posted to defend himself, before finally admitting that he was misinformed and wrong. Fair play to the man for admitting he was at fault though - many others wouldn't :up:
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2014
  10. Steve K

    Steve K Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,912
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    West London/Bucks Border
    Yes definitely regulated, and just like everything else on this gun, the reg is well designed and very efficient. ;)
     
  11. micken

    micken Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Leeds
    ^^ cloverleaf's spot on
    ^ & so is Steve K
     
  12. lurchermann

    lurchermann Busy Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Middlands
    So the new hw100 is worth geting?
     
  13. jjones

    jjones Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    0
    yeah, nice gun but I would go for one with a regulator ;)

    (I have a hw100kt and love it, it may not look as nice as a daystate but it does the job and does it very well)
     
  14. tomsteebs

    tomsteebs Donator

    Messages:
    2,944
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    South Leicestershire
    one of these!

    more shots than hw100, same weight, looks very nice, finish is superb, cost about £450 max used, easy to strip.

    i should get a job at webley/fx ;) i have a hw100 aswell and rate them in there modern guise

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2014

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice