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HW100 Pellet tests...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Davy-Kelly, May 30, 2014.

  1. Davy-Kelly

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    So I had the following pellets...
    [​IMG] and aa Diabolo field.

    The tests were done in my garden which is subject to wind (around 0-5 kph on the day)

    I tested them all some of which we're shocking!! I quickly wrote off the hobbys, gecos, crossman destroyers, H&n Hunter, H&n hollow points.

    This left me with accupell, BSA elite, aa Diabolo field, JSB 4.50, 51, 52 & 53s, and the H&n hunter extremes

    I knocked off the accupell and BSA for producing the following groups at 40yds...

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I was now left with the JSB's, hunter extreme and the aa Diabolo fields. Giving the following results at 40 yards...

    JSB's...
    [​IMG]
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    [​IMG]

    AA Diabolo Field...
    [​IMG]

    Hunter Extreme - 29mm group
    (no image sorry)

    I then re-fired the JSB's, H&N Hunter extremes and AA DF's firing 10 shots at each target to give a better look at them.

    AA DF - 40 yards - 10 shots - 14mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.50 - 40 yards - 10 shots - 14mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.51 - 40 yards - 10 shots - 19mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.52 - 40 yards - 10 shots - 20mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.53 - 40 yards - 10 shots - 22mm
    [​IMG]

    H&N Hunter Extreme - 40 yards - 10 shots - 35mm
    [​IMG]

    I then pushed it out to 56 yards (the limit of my garden!) and got the following results...
    (10 shots at each)

    AA DF - 56 yards - 10 shots - 20mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.50 - 56 yards - 10 shots - 23mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.51 - 56 yards - 10 shots - 31mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.52 - 56 yards - 10 shots - 33mm
    [​IMG]

    JSB 4.53 - 56 yards - 10 shots - 38mm
    [​IMG]

    There was no real point in taking the H&N HE out to the 56 yards as the grouping would only have been silly.

    So I'll be sticking with the JSB 5.50 and AA DF me thinks! Although I'll probably be using the H&N HE for close range work as I would image that they would do more damage than the dome heads, I mean come on look at that cross in their head!! ...
    [​IMG]
     
  2. Davy-Kelly

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    I promptly took it out to my permission and got two feral pigeons and a wood pigeon keeping the farmer happy.

    As an aside, is a 20mm group at 56 yards considered good? (I would have thought so personally, but interested to know what others are getting??)
     
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  3. Davy-Kelly

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    PS the woody went down a treat...

    [​IMG]
     
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    My 100 likes h&n ftt
     
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    where's the bloody chips !! ;) lol ... honestly looks delicious :)
     
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    That pigeon does look good and 20mm groups at 56 yards seems like bloody good grouping/shooting to me but there again I don't do any target shooting other than zeroing in my scopes so I'm sure some paper punchers will soon tell you how much better they can do (I don't think I could beat it but hopefully I'd be just as good) ;)
     
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    Hi Dave good post very interesting results. a mate has hw100kt used JSB 4.52 but moved to AA DF as grouped better. HN FTT are worth a try. see you got a chrono now would like to see the FPS for each group of each pellet so i can compare. only got 15 yards in garden so cant do decent tests
     
  9. cloverleaf

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    Nice write up :)

    The AA DF (what head size?) and some of the JSB groups are certainly good.

    I notice you're measuring the group size edge to edge - convention is to quote centre to centre distance (edge to edge minus one calibre, so all your figures would be 4.5mm smaller measured c-c) since this allows fair comparison between different calibres.

    At 40yds The 14mm (9.5mm c-c) 10-shot groups from the AA and JSB 4.50 pellets are very good. Recently my own HW100 averaged 9.75mm c-c over 4x10 shot groups at 36yds with Exact 4.52; so you're doing a little better than I am - might have to try some 4.50s but I suspect batch variations probably play a part too.

    Similarly the 20mm (15.5mm c-c) and 23mm (18.5mm c-c) groups at 56yds are decent. I've not really tried my rifle at this range yet, but have tested a lot of PCPs and generally expect around 25-30mm c-c for most decent quality (but not particularly well-suited) pellets and 15-20mm c-c for pellets that the rifle likes. We all hear tales of the fabled 1/2" group at 55yds - I don't doubt that in ideal conditions an exceptional, top-end rifle with the correct (sorted) ammo could probably pull off the odd sub-1/2" group; but very much doubt that it could do it consistently.

    The best 55yd, 10-shot group I've ever shot was 14mm c-c with my Air Arms sort-of-MPR and weight-sorted Air Arms Express, but I doubt it would do this all the time.

    [​IMG]


    There's certainly nowt wrong with your rifle's accuracy now you've found what pellets it likes :)
     
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    To be fair when its bench rested it not so much a measure of skill more of a mechanical process involving patience and pellets! The rifle is for hunting, I only shoot paper with the pistol really, or like you for zeroing.
     
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    Yeah that's the plan, the chromo hasn't arrived yet but will check the most accurate pellets when it arrives and post the results here. I'll order a tin of H&N FFT and see what they are like too...
     
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    The A DF are the 4.52 (can you get different sizes??)

    Yeah I was measuring edge to edge, but the c-c measurements make it sound much better though :)
     
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    JSB exact heavy in my hw100 .177
     
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    My .177 HW100 has always performed superb with JSB Exact in 4.53 and my .22 HW100 has always liked JSB Exact in 5.52

    Both guns have laser accuracy with these pellets ;)
     
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    Yup, you can get the Fields in 4.51 and 4.52mm. Interesting that The gun did so well with the 4.52 Fields and 4.50 Exacts, but not splendidly with the 4.52mm exacts; given that they're all basically the same pellet. Makes me think the difference is perhaps due more to batch variation than to head size.
     
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    While you're on the JSB's, you might do well to try the Express :D
     
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    I always used JSB exacts in my .177 HW100 but had a tin of RWS superfields knocking around from an old rifle that used to love them so thought i would give them a try in my HW with impressive results. Both targets were @40 yards and both shot with a full 14 shot magazine and bench rested. With results like these got to be worth giving them a try. View attachment 97452
     
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    hi Paul, would you say the groups were better with the superfields ? , atb , rich.
     
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    Much as it hurts to say I think they are the best I've had of any pellet as I've just bought 10 tins of exacts. But yes I was very surprised with the results. Definitely worth trying a tin. Cheers paul
     
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    Good post and good shooting, your as sad as I am but with a bigger garden!

    James
     

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