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hw100 kt carbine or BSA R10 ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by matt_rayner8, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. matt_rayner8

    matt_rayner8 Engaging Member

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    I am looking at getting into hunting for small game rabbits, pigeons and crows etc.

    I can get either the hw100 kt carbine or BSA R10 for roughly the same money.
    Which would be better to go for?
     
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    hw100. Both quality goods but that's just my personal opinion.
     
  3. DR2501

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    +1 on the HW100 - I had the KS and it was fantastic, regret selling it but I was moving house so...
     
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    I had the same dilemma. Went to my local dealer and shouldered an R10, HW100 and the AirArms S510. Of the three I went for the HW100 Karbine with the Sporter stock. Picking it up end of the month.

    When I shouldered the R10 I instantly didn't like it, it just didn't feel right for me at all. I would suggest doing the same as that made my mind up for me to be honest. I am going to be using it mainly for target shooting, plinking and a little bit of light hunting...rats and pigeons mainly. I went for the Karbine because it was lighter and just felt more balanced for me but everyone's different.

    The multishot on the HW100 is brilliant, and I really like the side lever action as well.

    Whatever you do though, don't buy one without trying it first! You may have already done so but assumed not from your post.
     
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    The R10 does appeal to me for a future gun though due to the high shot count.

    Shoulder them first as stated above, it really does make a difference.
     
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    HW100 !! I am collecting mine tomorrow morning. It felt great to handle, and very well balanced. As above, the loading action is excellent. Having said all this, I am not anti BSA - I have the Ultra SE as well and it's a lovely gun. I'm going to set up the BSA for ratting and hunting around the farm, and the 100 for longer range stuff, birds etc.
    Good luck!!
     
  7. vitalich

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    Hw100 or huntsman regal
     
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    I agree HW100 or Huntsman regal, good luck with whichever you choose.
     
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    I have had both and they are equally as good as each other.
    Handling wise I prefer the R10 and it holds lots more air....
     
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    I agree.ive got a hw100 fsb and a r10 bullpup and a r10 mk2.people are quick to write off the r10 but I think there great.
     
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    the r10 has more air, but how many shots you're need in the field?
    the r10 is compact (check my ultra R10 thread how compact it can be) but i don't like to hold it over buddy as the forend of stock is too short for me
    the r10 is a very nicely designed one, but not so nicelly made as DS or HW
    the r10 is lighter than hw100, but when u add any good scope you don't feel any difference (DS regal is lighter than R10 and hw100)
    the r10 is a good looking one for buddy lowers, but u will need to refinish the stock with danish or tru oil as the original one looks to be only waxed on woody
    the r10 has the ugly bsa mags, very uncomfy for me (i'm loading from the right side)
    the r10 can be nicelly modded and blueprinted, but it's the same as to upgrade your Corsa to be like 1er BMW or Mini cooper

    all imho
     
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    thanks for all the replies so far. I am looking at them both online and are both second hand so will have to travel to see them both so comparing them might be a little bit hard.
    I have used a hw100 but i think it was an older moder and wasnt a carbine. I found it very heavy. I wasnt overly keen on the side leave and like the idea of bolt action lever but havent ever tried one.
    It was more the weight that was putting me off but if the kt carbine version is lighter then it shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    The carbine is lighter than the full length, but still considered heavy. In all honesty though, if you don't like the side lever then the weight doesn't matter.
     
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    Could you find a dealer nearby that stocks them both (I'm sure you could get some advice on local ones from this very forum) even if you dont want to buy it from them? I think buying one over the other without picking them up is a risk! Then, fill your boots and search online/2nd hand once you know what you like.
     
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    that is a good idea. i think i will take a trip to a local gun shop and see what they have there.
    I would be buy face to face so i would test it there but it could be a bit akward if i agreed a price and then got there and said i didnt like it. and waste of a journey.

    The side lever worked well and i could tell it is well made but i kept missing it and had to look for it but i guess i would get used to that after using it for a while.
     
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    Slipperyeel is spot on but the R10 is more pointable. and lots more shots per fill.
     
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    I have both - one in .177 and the other in .22. If I had to choose between them I would go for the HW100KT everytime. The reasons have already been stated. I mainly go hunting so shot count not an issue really and I believe the HW mag system is the best on the market. Weight wise there is nothing to choose between them and they are as accurate as each other.

    The HW is quieter than the R10 - even if I use the HW silencer on the R10.

    But as already said, shoulder both before making the decision

    After all that, it could be that I choose the HW over the R10 as it was the first one I bought when I got back into airgunning..

    Thanks
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    In this case try huntsman regal or classic.
    Much better for the field.
    Easier to cock than r10

    I'm keeping my hw100 for the field - I like sidelever

    And I still have three of mk3 and couple of mk4
    Which I like more than huntsmans
     
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    You mentioned secondhand, if so, with R10, look for one that has been to one of the "tuners". Many are good "out of the box" but it would clinch a deal for me. Best of luck whatever you decide
     

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