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Hw 97 Forest Laminate Stock - Review

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Hampshire Tog, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Hampshire Tog

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    Some weeks ago, I started a thread asking people’s views on the HW77 compared to the HW97. All I really wanted was the forest laminate stock which is only available for the 77, so I was wondering whether the 77 would be a good addition to my collection. After many valued contributions to the thread, I opted to get a 97 but with the 77 forest laminate stock and in .22. I duly penned an email to Hull Cartridge enquiring whether such a thing is available. I was told that they only deal with the trade. So I asked one of my local RFDs (Portsmouth Gun Centre - fab chaps) whether they could ask this same question on my behalf which they did but they were told bluntly ‘No’. “But how can this be?” quoth I, for such rifles are indeed available from Sportsman’s Gun Centre who after all are not the official importer of Weihrauch and who one would assume would preside over a lesser selection of gun/stock combinations. But it turns out that HC just didn’t want to do it. If you want an HW 97 in a laminate stock then you can have any colour as long as it’s blue. So the order was placed by PGC with SGC on my behalf and a few days later the ‘grey import’ arrived.

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    Well, let me tell you, grey it may be but the blend of laminate shades is vey pleasing. If I’m honest, I had been hoping for the ‘autumn’ version with more russet colours but TBH it had been such a pfaff getting this far, I wasn’t going to argue. I swiped the scope from my temperamental HW 98, a Hawke Panorama 3-12 x 40, my cheapest scope but simple and perfectly adequate.

    Now there isn’t much I can add to the collective knowledge of the HW 97. As you would expect: Yes, it’s nice to cock. Yes it was a mite twangy out of the box. No, it wasn’t pellet fussy, at least it grouped acceptably with the two types I tried - JSB Exact Jumbo RS 13.43 grain and H&N FTT 14.66 grain. I already have the .177 version in the tactical thumbhole stock. It was my first rifle since getting back into the sport. I was shooting it the other week. Gosh it’s good, even though there are some scratches on the action, testimony to my first ham-fisted attempts at stripping and tuning. Why did I even bother getting a load of other air rifles? This one does everything I need it to. And yet…well I think many of us here suffer the same condition; just-one-more-itus.

    But I digress. At 4.2 kg unscoped, this laminate version of the ’97 is the veritable Fatty Arbuckle of the airgun world. That’s a full 300g heavier than the LGV Master Pro, hitherto my heaviest rifle and in my perception a veritable sack of cement. I have fond memories of being in the Army Cadets in the 1980s lugging a Lee Enfield No. 4 over Aldershot training area. I swear this ’97 is heavier than the Lee Enfield. (I’ve just checked and indeed it is by a whole 10g but that’s before you put a scope on it.)

    At The Lains, I pulled cleaning patches through the barrel and they emerged with a satisfying amount of goo the colour of earwax on them and then fired a string over the chrony. 11.29 Ft/lbs and an average shot spread of just under 4.5 fps. A good augury. I began on targets at 30 yards in a light on/off wind. Not long after I started, the gun started grouping OK.

    Does the weight absorb the vibrations? To a degree but it was still fairly lively. I started off using a MTM Predator shooting rest which I like to use for setting up a new rifle. My assumption is that the rifle sits solid and still so you can eliminate most of the human faults, handy when zeroing a new gun for the first time. This has worked on all my previous guns (springers and PCPs) but on this one I was challenged to get exactly the same hold each time and that was reflected in the groups. I switched to a Vanguard gun rest and the groups tightened, no prize winners but none too shabby and more than satisfactory for a first outing straight out of the box.

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    After a full day of shooting .177 springers, I get a slight headache - I guess it’s absorbing all those vibrations through the cheek makes the brain rattle around a little. (Actually, there’s a thought: Do you think springer shooters risk suffering brain injury like boxers and footballers? Could it be that PCP shooters have more brain capacity or did springer shooters have more brain cells to begin with and can afford to lose a few to level the playing field? I’m curious to see whether anyone takes that debate forward.) Anyway, after shooting this one for 3 hours, I didn’t suffer the same symptoms, so some property of the stock, be it the weight or the layered wood must ameliorate the vibrations in some way.

    Final verdict: Well for me it does slay the myth that you can’t enjoy a Weihrauch without first inserting a drop-in kit. I probably will do that at some stage but for the time being the twang is not too distracting. I love the stock and can’t help but think so would a ton of other people if only they were more readily available. Does it bring anything to my air rifle collection other than a weight training device? I’d say, and this may just be me wallowing in the after glow of a new gun purchase, early indications are that it shoots more consistently than my other .22 springer, a Prosport. I will have to trial them side by side with a variety of pellets but right now were my neighbour to cry “Help! There’s a rat in my garden! Please get rid of it (but only use a springer!)” I’d reach for the Weihrauch.
     
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  2. robthedog

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    I have the same stock on my full length 77, but i am thinking of trying it on my stl 97 as i find the plastic stock too short, thing is, if it suits the rifle, what do i put on the 77 ?....
     
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    Put the plastic one on the hw77...

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    That gun is a beauty!

    I quite fancy a forest laminate 77 :(
     
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    Superb. I did think of getting exactly the same but my eyes have become fixed with the idea of a 97 in 77 standard stock. SWS have them.
     
  6. Wofty

    Wofty 'This is the way'

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    Wonderful write up. I do enjoy your style.
    That 97 sure looks better than the 'official' blau.
    A keeper here I think:thumb:
     
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  7. Paul Chell

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    laminates shine up very nice with a drop of T-Cut and elbow grease if you like that sort of thing
     
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  8. Hampshire Tog

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    Just rub with a cloth in small circles? I'm guessing avoid the stippling?
     
  9. robthedog

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    Tried it, it doesn't look right
     
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    Looks awesome...
     
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    Good little write up.:)
    I would be tempted for the same model.
     
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    Thanks for feeding your thoughts back buddy.

    The 97 sits very well in that stock, it’s a looker!

    As for brain cells, I only had two to start with and they didn’t even get on:confused:
     
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    A cs600 ? I’m getting one off Santa for my 77
     
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    quite like the look of the 800, had a 700 on my 100kt & that was nice
     
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    There was a post on here in August .this 77 is a stunner . DB1F3093-46F2-477C-8103-83132F807411.png
     
  16. Wofty

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    I heard from one of santa's elves that you're on the naughty list so no CS600 for you:mao:
     
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  17. Tyler durdon

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    Probably right mate .
     
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    This stock from SWS [​IMG]
     
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    Stunner mate, great set up
     
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    Just sell it to me pal ! Go on .
     
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