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Hw '77 Safety Catch ??

Discussion in 'Technical' started by 2506sendero, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. 2506sendero

    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    My mate has an early Winerack '77 and has just fitted a new safety catch unit (button & spring) and it appeared to go in ok and that all was well.
    Unfortunately, after not too many shots, the new parts have decided to part company with the action, as in ping completely out, and he is once again safety catch free.
    He has fired literally thousands of rounds through this rifle, so is this problem down to good old fashioned wear and tear, or have the parts changed over the years, and could he have unwittingly fitted the wrong bits?
    Thanks for looking.
     
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    HW100Tuning Straight Pride

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    Have you still got the catch? Got any measurements?
     
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    shauny Top Poster

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    if its an orig hw safety ,could be just wearntear, or maybe the little tab on the trigger isnt correctly positioned.
    if its an after market brass /ali/stainless safety,its prob down to badly made item. had lots of after market ones
    that dont let the gun cock. peeps that make them knock em out without trying them in an action,and unless they
    have very very close dims to orig item,they will not work.
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Thanks guys i will get some measurments up later.
    Is the serial number/year of manufacture relevant?
    Yes he still has the bits AFAIK.
     
  5. shauny

    shauny Top Poster

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    if its a genuine hw item,all will be same size for the 77/97 80 , smaller for the 99/50/57
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    All parts came from Chambers.
     
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    I asked for measurements to make sure he got the HW77 version and had not ordered (or recieved) the 99 version by mistake :up:
     
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    shauny Top Poster

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    should be kosher then.:up:
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Thanks for this - measurements will be up later :thumb:
     
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    Blackmax Forum Rude Guy

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    As Shauny said it's the metal tab in the trigger, it needs bending up very slightly.
     
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    Wofty Keyboard Hero

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    I've had to play with the safety tab before after swapping Rekord units.
    It just takes a bit of trial and error adjusting the tab and checking it's operation.
    Care is needed as you can pull the trigger - nothing happens- touch the safety and it goes off. If set wrongly.
    Also make sure both pins are always in to test as they align the trigger correctly.
    It's a chore but nothing difficult.
     
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  12. 2506sendero

    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Looks about right :up:
     
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  14. StellaArtois Sr

    StellaArtois Sr Springer Whore

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    Don't buy one I have loads of them so I can send you a catch, as for the spring I usually lose those but rob and trim them down using the others halfs best spring biro.
    PM me you address and I will send you a original catch.
    Ade :thumb:
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    That is extremely kind of you, thanks :thumb:
     
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    Deejayuu Donator

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    Granny, eggs, etc. The rear trigger pin bush is known to fall out of the frame unnoticed. Some frames are snug fit in the block so trigger works but safety won't. Can send dimension for "tab" position on frame if it helps.
     
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    just seen this -today my hw safety catch stopped working .I bent the tab out a touch with pliers but same again after a couple of shots.Looks like my tab position needs checking too.
     

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