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Advice HW 45 sight and tune up advice

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Rincewind666, May 19, 2015.

  1. Rincewind666

    Rincewind666 Moderated user

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    I just got a HW 45 in .177 any advice on what sight to use for and and does anyone know anyone who has tuned this pistol as all information will be greaty accepted.
     
  2. BiggaJ

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    The pistol is already running close to full power so what are you looking to do to tune it?

    IMHO I would steer clear of laser sights and go for one of the many telescopic sights suited for pistols.
     
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    I looking to smooth out the firing cycle and tame the recoil. I cant choose from a red dot sight, holographic sight or pistol scope
     
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    I've just sold my 45 along with a Hawke RD25 Red Dot sight. I found the pistol much more accurate with the Red Dot over the 18yds which is the length of my garden. I know many find open sights preferable but for me, and my eyes, the red dot made all the difference. Be warned the dobetails on the 45 don't lend themselves to all mounts but the Hawke's split rings work perfectly.
    hth
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    Depends on what you are shooting really. On the other forum you said you hunt, so red-dot or pistol scope may be better. I shoot paper with mine and have zero-ed it for my indoor range so the black part of target (5x 17x17cm) sits just above the iron sight. I would still recommend the pistol scope, and I favour the AGS 2x20, as it is easy to reparallex without heat etc.

    For tuning, speak to (or google) Tinbum who makes delrin spring guide for them. His is different he designed a double spring-guide for it, which does reduce the recoil a bit. My HW45 still has the kick, but a bit less recoil than out-of-the-box. Still not easy to shoot accurately however. They are not the easiest to put back together... again Tinbum can help you with this.

    Finally just make sure you are not shooting from too far if you are hunting with it...

    Adrian
     
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    Thanks for sound advice guys .
    I hunt rats and winged rats at 10/15 yards in my garden.
    I had a feeling a scope would not be too fast to aim over the red dot but having never used a pistol sight im unsure.
    This is my first proper pistol , i like the feel of the gun and enjoy it more than the co2 air force trophy pistol my friend has ( but im thinking of getting one real soon)
     
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    I have the AirForce CP-1 multi shot coming, it's in the post so I am looking forward to seeing how it shoots, I already have the Webley Alecto .... both guns full power without recoil. The Alecto is incredibly accurate but to go full power it needs three pumps so it's not the quickest loading/aiming/firing pistol around.

    I tried laser and red dot sights on it and could not get a good zero so took them off and use open sights very well. The AGS scope mentioned above is something I have looked at and did find it easy to get used too and its very clear, this was on a CP-1 in my local RFD however, I have not bought one yet ...... still thinking about it. I guess I'm having too much fun with open sights.
     
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    Just wondering where you purchased your cp1 multishot ?
     
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    I've not hunted before so I don't know how big a rat or winged rats look like at 10/15 yards, or whether it's powerful enough for a clean kill at that distance. The main issue with red-dot is parallex-error, making the accuracy very much operator dependent. The further you are shooting the less likely it will give you pellet on pellet kind of performance. The dot on cheaper red dots are also big, and may cover the whole target at that distance, making them even less accurate (I have not hunted before!).

    Pistol scope is good, and if you miss it's probably because of the shooter and not the gun. The other thing to say is HW45 is not the easiest gun to shoot, and it will take a lot of practice to get good consistent accuracy. It might also be too loud for hunting. CP-1 may be a better choice if you have to use a pistol (if it's powerful enough).

    Check the above before shooting anything live.

    Adrian
     
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    I only use open sights on pistols, really dont like scopes or sights on them. Also the 45 is a pretty hefty beast without a ny extra weight.

    Practice open sighted and you will have the fastest target acquisition sight you can get ;)
     
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    Can't vouch for the total weight of the HW45 but I know from my own experience with red dots that the Hawke brand are hefty in themselves. Might not feel much when you handle the scope on its own but they do add up when on a gun.

    I have a review of a Hawke red dot on here. (http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/196098-Hawke-HK3204-Red-Dot-Review). It's at the cheap end and there are issues with the size of the dot. Especially at higher brightness settings. So for the likes of hunting it's useless. Fun plinking, oh it's worth it.

    Personally I would get a pistol specific scope for hunting. Unless you are willing to spend a fortune on a dot or holographic sight it's not gonna cut it.
     
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    GunCZ. paid around £100 including delivery and bank charges. It's in the post, recorded so should have it soon.
     
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    Cant wait to see that.
     

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