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hw 100 in .20

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by deadnick, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. deadnick

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    Hi peoples,
    Just wondering if anyone out there has a hw100 in .20. I got one and love it to bits and does anyone know how many have been made. I have tried the other calibres and really get on with the .20 .
     
  2. Jonnyovy

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    They are an off the shelf model mate. So will be a load out there
     
  3. Accuspell

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    .20 is the way to go. I have been using the 5mm pellet for 18 years now. Glad to see people are finally catching up!!!:D
     
  4. Andy-K2

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    I know the HW100 .20 is a relatively new option, is there alot of choice in the range of .20 pellets, there is of course many manufactures of the other two calibres? Did you find it hard to find what the HW likes?
     
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    The Robin Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    I love .20 and have two rapids in said flavour. Jsb is choice of pellet for me but h&n works well too, I imagine the hw100 with love the h&n pellet :up:
     
  6. Accuspell

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    Because there is less choice, it is much easier to find a good pellet to suit the barrel - all the pellets made are good quality. This is one calibre that doesn't attract dubious pellets, probably because it is only the knowledgeable shooters that use it - newcomers will go for one of the more established calibres and then eventually might get round to trying the "new calibre" that has been going for 40 years!
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    You will find something that suits and even those that don't perform the best will still be very acceptable. head size is the biggest factor of fluctuation in .177 (4.51, 4.52 or 4.53 :confused:) Then in .22 you have another three head sizes to go through with each pellet....with .20 calibre you have one head size 5.01mm, job done. ;) :up:
     
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    Yes but if there were more head size options available in .20 maybe there's more potential for accuracy?
     
  8. Andy-K2

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    Very nicely explained Accuspell thank you,:up:
     
  9. deadnick

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    H+n at the moment good grouping at 35 yrds but yet to try the jsb at that range. Also when i move into my new workshop i have a good 70 yrds running up the middle so plenty of time to find the pellet that groups well at above the 35yrds i have at the moment .
     
  10. Accuspell

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    Why? There is only ONE established bore size for .20cal (5.01mm) and I would say accuracy good enough to take pellets stood up on the fence at 50 yards is perfectly acceptable and probably you won't see much benefit spending time, effort and money searching for even more! There is probably a reason why the National Benchrest Championship of RSA (South Africa) saw .20 shooters take the top 10 places.:D In the USA the calibre enjoys similar success at target disciplines. It is only we conservative (read suspicious of change) Brits that look at the young pretender quizzically. ;)

    With .177 there is the old British size, the European size and then modern British size......hence three different head sizes. The opportunity for mis match is so much greater. This is born out by pellet purchases changing from one batch to the next - say you buy JSB Exacts in 4.52mm size. The next time you buy them they are very likely to be from a different die with a different skirt shape. That is why people in the know buy batch numbered pellets 20 tins at a time.

    With .20 - these discrepencies are less likely to crop up. I have been shooting .20 almost exclusively since 1996 and I have never had much differential between pellets over all those years.
     
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    What power were the South Africans shooting at and what ratio of calibres were being used?
     
  12. Accuspell

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    I don't know, I just saw the results tables. It gave calibre and make of rifle - 8/ top 10 were RAW TM1000! All in .20 - which is a popular calibe in RSA, but then so is .177. They are less stuck in their ways though.
     
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    Ok I'm not being a doubting Thomas here more of a.20 curious fence sitter.
     
  14. stefan

    stefan I am the passenger

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    i think you may have got that wrong as hull cartridge only had a small amount brought into the country
     
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    A friend of mine is 8 weeks into his 12 week wait for one. His local rfd couldn't get one from the uk so had to put a special order in for one. Hopefully he'll have it by the middle of May
     
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    Nope. Bar and solware advertise as off the shelf. Bagnal and kirkwood in newcastle (my local) have them on the shelf. They have been a full production model for months now
     
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    Woody's of Wembley have at least 3 on the shelf ready to walk out with. So there is no need to wait for special orders.
     
  18. Trouserferret

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    Not so much less stuck in their ways as .22 requires a ticket.

    In some ways it's easier to get a licence for a (concealed carry) handgun than a .22 air rifle believe it or not.

    My Da lives in Cape Town, just moved from the Transvaal District (now Mphumalanga). Had a Luger 7.65 pistol, and couldn't get a .22 air rifle!

    Back on topic, I have a .177 and a .22. I feel I'm really missing out on the .20 calibre and might just have to use that as an excuse to purchase another rifle. That's what I'm gonna feed the girlfriend, and I'm gonna stick by it. :D
     
  19. Accuspell

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    Our folks live on the cape too, near Scarborough. Cousin Roger has the Indigenous Nursery and he surfs nearly every day down at Scarborough! I agree about the .22 difficulty, but it doesn't explain the preference of .20 over .177 for target disciplines - except of course the wind cheating properties of the.20.

    There are those who have never shot a .20 and KNOW it is no better than anything else. Then there are those who have shot a .20 for a long time and THINK it has advantages.:D
     
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    Awesome! The 'ol fella is in Simonstown now, much more his pace of life at the mo.

    I'm all for .20, just need to find myself the right gun at the right price (and a bigger toolbox for all the gubbins that inevitably come with it). I think I'd be right at home with it, just been a bit thin on the ground when I was looking. Might hold out for a Fenman in .20, 'cos my underlever and pcp are keeping me happy just now. I think it's the perfect calibre on paper, It's the best of both worlds.
     

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