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Hunting Gun Choices - Comments?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by dangerdave, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. dangerdave

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    Hi all, I am about to make an investment and I wanted to run it by you for any comments or advice please!

    I am getting a bit of a windfall and am ready to buy some hunting set up. At the moment FAC is out of the picture, so airguns it is. I shoot on a large farm where I rent a house, with all the usual quarry including rats in the barns.

    I have in mind two rifles which I need to be light enough to carry around for hours. I have a HW100 with sidewinder scope which is ideal for being in hides, sitting in barns etc but a bit heavy to lug about. After a lot of browsing I thought of:

    1. Air Arms S510 Superlight in .177 with Redfield Revolution 4-12 x 40 scope. AA Diablo Field pellets. This would be a daytime gun.
    2. Air Arms S410 Superlight in .22 with Pulsar Digisight N750 which would stay on the gun all the time. AA Diablo Hunter pellets. For use obviously after dark.

    A considerable investment which I can only make once, so want to get it right. By the way, I also like the BSA Ultra but already have one. The AA is a gun I would like to own and try.

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  2. essex sniper

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    Your best bet is to go for what feels right and comfortable in the shoulder s410/510 are both very good rifles but I prefer the ds huntsman over both of them other prefer the hw100 or scorpion etc they will all do the same job so it's what you prefer
     
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    If you want to save weight, the Superlite series of the AirArms range weighs next to nothing. I had one and it made hunting so much easier (going from a heavy lump tx200 to S410 Superlite).

    I'd go for the S410 and a decent silencer. The S510's shrouded barrel still needs a silencer, but it will make the rifle longer with one fitted due to the extended shroud.
     
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    Go to your local shop and have a play with a range of guns, there are so many to choose from and what suits one person may not suit another.
     
  5. DR2501

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    Why not get your Ultra regulated to increase the shot count - nice and light, accurate etc. Then you could buy the Air Arms S410 and have cash in your pocket.
     
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    HW100 too heavy to lug around?

    Do some work on the farm and build your muscles up, or buy a Bullworker for £20 and save the other £500. You don't need another rifle, you are much better using the one you have and getting to know it intimately.
     
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    I was going to say this also - I have had two HW100's and I carry them around all day when I go out no problems, and I'm not exactly Arnie. You won't find a better loading system than the HW100, especially when using it at night with the NV.
     
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    hello, if you have a bsa ultra why buy another unless the shot count matters ? you could get a light 3ltr tank and take with you?, if your set on getting another light PCP and use as described but more shots per fill the AAs are better but the difference in weight between standard and super lite is this AA S410 CARBINE CLASSIC 6.6LLB, the AA S410 CARBINE SUPER LITE 5.73LLB so the difference in weight might be ideal for what you intend. if you like a bolt action the 410 series are very good, or the side lever S510s 10 shot both work out at 6.4llb. info from airgun buyers guide. as ken said go and have a looksy and get a view as there are other PCPs that would do for your shooting. if you want realy light and high shot count look at the FX vermy, you might find a decent s/h MK1 in your area. since getting one in .22 my S410 has become redundant.
     
  9. terry1001

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    The Air Arms rifles are both nice, I prefer the 410 myself as the 510 shroud isn't to my taste and doesn't work very well as a silencer. The superlight designation is a bit of an exaggeration as well.
    The nv scope is serious overkill for air rifle use, I'm not sure about its performance in daylight but the Drone Pro is supposed to work very well day and night and is in the same price bracket. Having a day/night capable unit could allow you to go for a single rifle if that's a consideration.
    If you want ultimate light weight you could think about a customised rifle, at the weekend I saw a MFR which, complete with scope and shrouded barrel, weighed 2.6kg. This was a beautifully crafted gun and had weight removed from virtually every area and was fitted with a small bottle. Light weight does have its downside as the rifle can be more difficult to hold steady and if you then have to add in shooting sticks etc you won't have made an overall saving.
    Clearly you've already thought hard about what to do, if you are not in a hurry it might be worth making a trip to the Shooting Show in February which would give you a chance to see most of the rifles available plus a really good range of nv equipment and compare your choices side by side.
     
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    hello, never heard of a MFR terry any chance of a pic??
     
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    Maybe its the scope that is taking the weight a bit high? On my list is a Redfield scope in my local gun shop which may be more suitable. With regards to the Bullworker etc - nice point !! It may be the source of the problem though - I work out at the gym 4 days a week so maybe my muscles are goosed to start with!! :)
     
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    Cheers for the comments - I understand what you say about the scope being ott. But although I said that FAC is off the cards at the moment, it only means this year. In 2015 I am planning to get licenced so may use the scope on a .22 rifle. Handy points about the choices - thanks. I guess that as well as a keen shooter I also like to collect - guns included............ :)
     
  13. DR2501

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    What scope do you have on it? Some scopes do weigh a ton so it's a possibility lol.
    I also find that carrying the rifle in the croock of my elbow saves my arms for a shot :up:
     
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    Hi mate - as it happens I just took the scope off the gun and it IS heavy!! The box states 845g. I am going to sell the scope on here and see if I can get a real good quality scope in exchange / buy / swap etc. The scope is prob more suited to live ammo stuff.
    David
     
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    845g :eek: what is it? Hubble telescope? :D
     
  16. terry1001

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    here you go
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    I think you a right mate!! lol
    Its a Hawke Endurance, much more suited to bringing down elephants me thinks........
     
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    I had a go of an s410 many moons ago at the club, it's much lighter and more pointable than my HW100. However, I like the weighty feel of the German engineering but I can see how it might not be pleasant to lug about all day.
     
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    Have you considered lightening the HW100 with a custom cylinder. Chopped a whole pound off of mine with an A+M cylinder. You can then save your redies for 2015.
     
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    Sounds like something I should look at ! cheers
     

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