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How to fit a torch to your rifle

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by terry1001, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

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    There are often questions about how to fit a torch, what is the best way, the best location etc. There's no single way of doing this as it will depend upon your preferences and how you like to shoot but a few pointers and suggestions may help when trying to fit your torch (or laser) for lamping or nightvision.
    I've done some photos with notes on them which can be seen here https://www.flickr.com/photos/96928706@N04/sets/72157645575331277/ and there are some other photos of various projects up there as well if you want to browse around. Sometimes it's not easy to include a lot of photos in the thread so this method allows them to be viewed at full resolution if required.
    If you want your torch or illuminator to work properly then you need to get the beam properly aligned with your scope, this is even more important with night vision and infra red as the ir beam is not very powerful and you really need to get the centre of the beam on your target.
    You can get some simple mounts which use velcro or some form of screw fitting to clamp between the torch and another tube such as the scope, barrel or air reservoir. In my opinion the only reason to buy these is to save a few pence as they are generally of poor quality and don't give a reliable fixing, the screw clamp type can also damage the rifle or scope. In my opinion the best way is to use the simple weaver mounting system but unfortunately most rifles don't come fitted with weaver rails, if you have the rails fitted you will know how useful they are for fitting all sorts of accessories.
    Assuming you don't have weaver rails on your rifle then you're going to need to add some and there's several ways of doing this. A simple method is to use scope mounts which have weaver bases either on top or sometimes top and both sides but you may struggle to find a set that suit your rifle and scope but there are a few to choose from on ebay. The next option is to add a fitting to the scope such as the simple tube with a rail attached, you may need to move your mounts if the fitting fouls the ocular bell of the scope but usually it's not a problem. Another way of doing this, which will give you 2 weaver bases, is to cut the end off a figure 8 mount which can then be left clamped to the scope - this is particulalry useful with night vision where you may need a base to fit your monitor etc, Figure 8 mounts can be used just to hold the torch and/or provide the bases but they may cause problems when you want to put your rifle in the slip or case.
    Adjustable mounts are very useful as they allow you to get everything lined up nicely and they come in 2 types. The first type fits around the scope tube and torch and the second type has a weaver base. Both are fully adjustable but the ones that I have seen can be fiddly to fit as, unlike normal scope mounts, the fitting is larger on one side and the mating faces at an angle which often makes it awkward to get the fixing screws fitted. The type that fits around the scope tube will also get in the way of putting the rifle in a case.
    The photos show a torch with a high weaver mount and one with a weaver base adjustable. With these fittings it is possible to remove the torch without using tools so that you can pack the rifle away or change to a different torch if required. These are the fittings that I reccomend for torch/laser fitting and I can supply the basic high weaver mounts with my torches. You wouldn't expect to get good results using poor scope mounts on your rifle and it's a false economy to try and mount your torch on the cheap as well.
    I'm happy to offer any help or advice, either through posting here or by PM if you'd rather.
     
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    Terry/Yoda

    Once again you prove that you really are a "Jedi master" :up:, great post.

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    Can this be made in to a sticky?
     
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    Excellent write up and examples Terry! This definitely should be a sticky as certainly would have saved me time exploring options.
     
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    Hopefully it's of some use, I will try and do some more detailed pictures and examples when I get some time (and recover from this cold :( )
     
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    Great help Terry thanks. Is it best to mount the end of ir torch as close to scope end as possible?
     
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    The main issue is to get a solid mount but, to cut down the risk if reflections grom moderator, it's better to keep the torch as far forward as possible or as far away from the line of sight as possible.
    I tend to use high scope mounts which will often eliminate the risk.
    Reflections are mainly going to be aproblem if:
    you have a scope very close to the bore
    you have a large diameter moderator (especially if shiny)
    you set a wide torch beam.
    Ways to reduce it are:
    non reflective wrap on silencer
    sunshade on scope
    tighten torch beam (may not always be convenient)
    raise torch higher above scope or fit under rifle
     
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    Thank you Terry much appreciated
     
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