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how stupid are hospital staff?

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Ganton Gunner, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. Kyska

    Kyska Honorary Member

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    Nope, same docs.
     
  2. Mart61

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    With you on this one. They did a great job looking after me with gall bladder issues and the staff there delivered both of my grandchildren. They also removed my daughter's gall bladder.

    The NHS also saved my life following an argument with a truck whilst riding a Z650 way back in 1981.

    Yes occasionally they get it wrong and, on rare occasions, spectacularly so. But hey, I'm not too sure that many countries have a "free" health scheme as good as ours.

    My two cents...

    P.s. I also think it's cool that some of the staff are military. I've been treated by a Lt. Colonel.

    :)
     
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  3. milek

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    It wasn't the docs that caused me the grief and my surgeon was not available to NHS patients, he flew in from the states.
     
  4. oldbugger

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    the nhs is under staffed, under paid and over worked....but it does its best my eldest stepson is now a staff nurse, my neice is training to be a midwife, its horrendous some of the tales i hear from them, i have my own negative experience,s of the nhs,....but they do their best, under conditions, quite honestly i would flip at....
    amen for the nhs in my book, mr Bevan had the right idea it just got bastardized along the way , figures and numbers before the "people" thing...if i make a mistake in work, its just time and timber, if a nurse/doctor does, it can be fatal,nobody wants this, least of all the nurse /doctor,...they do their best,just my tuppenny worth like
     
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  5. sneakysniper

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    By sending you that letter, they have responded to you within some type of targeted timescale that they have and therefore met the target for a response..
     
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    I had a couple of these, it seems you have to wait a while to see a specialist. I saw one about a skin condition I have. Technically it's still not cured, although I was told it's not a case of curing it more a case of coping with it as it's not something they can make go away.

    Also seen one about my lower back, they were considering giving me a cortisone injection since that's been giving me problems on and off since I was a teenager. In that case the guy decided to not go ahead with the injection after looking at an MRI scan of my lower portion. He described my lower backs condition as normal wear and tear for my age, 34 at the time, 35 now. How in Bob's name they can call the pain I've previously been in normal I have no idea.:cool:
     
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    the NHS is not understaffed, its just the staff are employed in the wrong roles, just look at how many managers and team leaders they employ, as for underpaid I wish I was on the same dosh, as for overworked, if they sacked 25% of the penpushers and employed actual medical staff the workload would be spread out more
     
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    done a 140 mile round trip to coventry, they say dont listen to grantham hospital as there crap and know nothing, when i had shoulder operation there, physio/recpvery was completely wrong hence why shoulders still messed up, they laughed when i told them there specialist said i got arthritus getting out of a van while out lamping one night, and said although i was turned down for steroid injections in my leg thats the route they are going.... so 8 months or so on i have done a full circle but instad of doing a 5 minute drive i have to do a 4 hour round trip..... 1 for new mri scan as grantham hospital messed up and scanned the wrong part lololol ...... 2 for numbing my hip to make sure thats where the pain is then steroid injections....... 3 go back for physio

    they do not want other hospitals touching me as they think there under trained and will only make things worse for me.... oh well a year on and still limping round like a prat, in pain daily and now waiting on something that got turned down 8 months + ago

    so bascialy i have seen doc, physio, bursitus specialist, hip specialist, had mri scans and not one did there job properly ...... :mad2:
     
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    I agree that we're well paid for public sector workers but take into consideration the hours we work - many of us work extremely long and unsocial hours to the detriment of our health and our ability to be functional family members - so I think the pay is more than justified despite the fact that over the past 4 years we've had an agreed 1% pay rise (deferred for the first 2 years). When inflation's taken into consideration this is an effective pay cut. Not all of us are consultants but we still do our best.
     
  10. Chinnymonster81

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    Trouble is as much as we bitch about the NHS and its colossal mismanagement and waste if we paid private we would still end up seeing the same consultants who would still misdiagnose. The only difference would be it would get done quicker and put a bigger dent in our pocket. If the whole thing had been managed properly and the bleeding hearts had not been allowed to give treatment to every non uk national who hasn't any insurance or paid their way working here it's finances would be better. And better equipment and treatments would be available. All that said aside from a life wasting wait everytime I can't fault them when they have been needed. Still if that shiny faced ##### is PM after the next election and the jocks jump ship then all we will ever have is a conservative government and a second rate private healthcare system. And we will have to pay more for the privilege probably. Damn just fell off my soap box.
     
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    i was talking ground level workers , the people that actually "do" the "s****y" stuff,...they graft , they care,or they wouldnt do the f,kin job, and any money they earn, is well deserved in my book,if you read my post re, figures,and numbers, before "people", it kinda gives you an idea of where i was coming from
     
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    Should I call an ambulance?:D
     
  13. Wynne G Oldman

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    I think that the NHS is taken for granted by some people. I've always had excellent service from Hospitals and GP's whenever I've needed it. Just think yourselves lucky that you don't live in a country where you have to rely on insurance based medical care, like the USA for instance. ;)
     
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    one of the problems there is a lot of the people who take it for granted are people who have never paid into the system in the first place, health tourism is a major problem and we can`t do anything about it as it would be regarded as discrimination by the EU, and if we sent the bill to them they would only demand more from us to cover it, I don`t care how much flack I`ll get over my view but it is time to refuse care to non-uk patients and only offer them a free flight home, basic first aid to get fit to travel should be their only entitlement, after all, what do we get when we suffer health problems abroad
     
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    TBH I'd expect the same level of care if I needed it anywhere in the EU. Fortunately, I've never needed it, but are you saying that this isn't the case?
     
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    Only if you have the eu medical card and it has already been reported on a number of occasions that the Spanish and Greek hospitals are refusing them and demading cash or insurance details. So go figure, the EU nations can ignore the agreement with impunity whilst we are expected to provide even without the EU citizen having the card or any insurance and that's before you get to the huge number of non EU citizens using the NHS free.
     
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    It aint so much the NHS staff that are stupid, more so the politicians who have kept meddling with it over the years, Same with edumacation, Politicians should be awarded feck up points, get three and they're out!!!:mad:
     
  18. Wynne G Oldman

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    Yes, I've heard about that sort of thing, but I do think it's the exception instead of the norm as other EU countries are supposed to provide health care for all EU citizens. I also understand that there is a number on non-EU citizens abusing our system, but from what I gather, it costs less to treat them than to apply a system that would stop them being treated. I don't have the answers, but I will say that most things reported on the news are the unusual, not the usual, by the very nature of news itself. For example, watching the news you would think that our cities are hotbeds of gun crime, where in reality, there's only around a hundred people a year that die of gunshot wounds in this country, and a fair number of those are either accidents or suicides. Compare that to 30,000 a year in the USA.
     
  19. Wynne G Oldman

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    Yes, I have noticed that the NHS and our education system seems to get better under Labour and worse under The Conservatives. Could it have something to do with funding?
     
  20. Chinnymonster81

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    You're not wrong but if we keep a conservative government then we will end up with an American style healthcare system. So someone needs to find out where it is going wrong and fix it. Trouble is no one with the power to do that is actually interested as its a long term prospect and they all think short term. Plus big business is hovering and waiting to make a massive profit when it all falls completely apart. And we all know who are firmly in big businesses pockets with their directorships and consultancy roles.
     

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