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How smart are Maggies?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Dag, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. Dag

    Dag Pro Poster

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    Before I get the white paint out I wondered if painting a crow decoy with white markings would fool magpies into thinking it was one of them? I know it is a bigger bird and there are some differences in shape , beak, tail length etc but would they detect this before they touched down? Any advice from those of you with decoying experience appreciated,
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    They'll probably assume it's one of these, a hooded crow.

    [​IMG]

    It will still get their attention. Maybe not fool them though.
     
  3. whitevanman574

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    hmm there is a trick to magpies maybe not ethical , but you get a good few of them
     
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    How smart are magpies? Very. Very smart, very alert and very hard to confuse.
     
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    not sure if they would be fooled by just painting a crow decoy,i would if you can shoot one from a different permission from a different area and set it out with slit open rabbit.
     
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    i shot 5 magpies in 5 minutes they kept coming to see what was going on they were making such a racket i stopped otherwise would have been more
     
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    The first one is the hardest; once you've shot one the others will come to investigate (and shout) as Meerkat1 suggests.
     
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    If you shot one in a gang they become focused on their fallen comrade, and as long as they don't see you, your get to shot a few more.

    Where as you shoot a crow and they then post sentrys to warn others away from the area.
     
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    I had 3 within 5mins also,i had one crow decoy out and a load of bread at its feet.
    Should have been 4 but i missed one!.
    Gaz
     
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    They are very bright and see danger in a flash - be well concealed with plenty of patience.
    I shot a massive crow at 47 yards and immediately several magpies swooped in going berserk - that's when you get a chance to take a few out.
    Their call system is very effective.
     
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    Magpies are extremely intelligent birds, but they will still come in to carrion crow decoys because they have the same diet! So there is no need to dress the crow deeks up. One of my tricks is to put a cracked hens egg next to one of the decoys, it always works for me. ATB Paul.
     
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    Most of the Crow family are extremely clever and very street wise, often attack mob handed and make an unbelievable racket when you take one out, watched a Crow recently take a baby squirrel with ease so they do have some good points!
     
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    Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'll leave the paint and try the crow deek with eggs or bread first. Not sure Surrey mags will even recognise a hoodie but if they are that smart they might have read a book or two.;)
    Dag
     
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    SMART ?

    Very smart indeed, but one thing l've noticed (and l think is a little strange) when stalking and you come across some, is that if l'm spotted by one in a group, they don't/won't give the game away to the others that they've seen me and just quietly fly off ?

    Thats "Dog eat dog" alright and gives you a chance at the others ;)
     
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    Yep I was talking about this the other day, every other gregarious bird will warn his mates in some way, even pigeons clap their wings as a warning but snaky Maggie will just slip out the back door leaving his mates to a lump of lead.
     
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    Interesting topic since I have two magpie permissions and haven't shot one yet! I do know that corvids are exceptionally clever - in fact there's a certain type of crow in Mexico that's learned to drop bones from traffic lights so that lorries will break them open so they can eat the marrow! Also, a type of crow (can't remember which one) is the only other animal proven to recognise itself in a mirror rather than believing it to be another crow, which is a key indicator of higher intelligence.
     
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    Actually, it was a magpie that passed the mirror test, and they're the only non-mammal to pass it:

    [h=3]Eurasian magpie[edit][/h]The Eurasian magpie is the only non-mammal to pass the mirror test. Researchers applied a small red, yellow or black sticker to the throat of five Eurasian magpies where they could be seen by the bird only by using a mirror. The birds were then given a mirror. The feel of the sticker on their throats did not seem to alarm the magpies, however, when the birds with coloured stickers caught a glimpse of themselves in the mirror, they scratched at their throats - a clear indication that they recognised the image in the mirror as their own. Those that received a black sticker, invisible against the black neck feathers, did not react.[SUP][5][/SUP]
    Until the study on magpies, self-recognition was thought to reside in the neocortex area of the brain, however, this is absent in birds. Self-recognition in birds and mammals may be a case of convergent evolution, where similar evolutionary pressures result in similar behaviors or traits, although they arrive at them via different routes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test#Eurasian_magpie
     
  18. Donki Oaty

    Donki Oaty Where's the time going?

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    A Magpie Funeral....

    [video=youtube;60Zg9sGnQf8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Zg9sGnQf8[/video]
     
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    Oh that's nice, eat your friend
     
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    I'll agree with you on that. The most Magpies I've shot were in Surrey and they seemed pretty dumb? (Devils punch bowl area) Since trying my luck on them in the Midlands they seem a lot more clued up.
     

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