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Question How do I not break the law?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by colwyn, May 31, 2015.

  1. colwyn

    colwyn Active Member

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    Given the law as stated below, how am I to get my air rifle home from the shop without breaking the law?


    s19 of the 1968 Firearms Act says as follows;

    “Carrying firearm in a public place.

    A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him) he has with him in a public place

    (a) a loaded shot gun,

    (b) an air weapon (whether loaded or not),

    (c) any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm, or

    (d) an imitation firearm.”
     
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  2. dave goodall

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    U have a justifying reason when taking it home from purchase dont get caught up in the printed laws I've never once been stopped and asked What I'm doing with a gun case on my back
     
  3. andy46

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    in the boot of your car,like everyone might do,no law getting broke
     
  4. colwyn

    colwyn Active Member

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    Thanks Dave.
     
  5. colwyn

    colwyn Active Member

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    Nice one Andy :)
     
  6. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Same as the rest,

    never been stopped, or had any unwanted attention:)
     
  7. jasonanderson

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    You could carry it home on a bus or other form of public transport as long as it's covered eg in a gunslip/case
     
  8. mick 1986

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    Depending on where you are, and what your doing, it doesn't need to be covered. We walked from Ripon racecourse back to camp, skirting the city centre. Two police were in a car at a set of traffic lights, we walked right past, without any concern from the police. We were dressed in CS95, not ******* around, just walking quick. The reason for not covering the rifles at the moment in time is irrelevant in this instance, it proves it doesn't need to be covered.
     
  9. Cam.

    Cam. Registered

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    Please be aware that the boot of your car is public place as far as the Law is concerned.

    However, carrying a gun that you have just purchased back to your home counts as "reasonable excuse". What else could you reasonably do?
     
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  10. Pistol p

    Pistol p Busy Member

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    I got stopped early one morning with two shotguns and cartridges in the boot of my car. The police didn't know, but questioned where I was going( dressed in camo).After telling them that the vehicle contained firearms, they checked my number plate, didn't ask to see my cert and jogged on. Apparently the paperwork involved when a firearm is involved in a stop check is horrendous.
     
  11. Cam.

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    The reason they "jogged on" was because your firearms are logged on the PNC system against, a) your home address and, b) your car reg.

    Nowt to do with any burden of paperwork!
     
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  12. andy46

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    I didn't mean for the op just to be riding around with it in the boot of his car while he was shopping,just like you said,to and from a gun shop or permission
     
  13. SteveO

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    I know the police can search any vehicle they see fit but how can a car boot be deemed a public place?

    I have control over who has access to my boot and I don't invite the public to look or dip into it whenever they feel like it.

    Link to legislation please?
     
  14. Big Uli

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    As long as you don't act an arse you can carry your gun from home to your place of shooting and back again.
    If you walk around with a gun and ammo in a public place I guess the police will want to know why and they have every right to ask
    Just be sure your answer and reason is satisfying to them
     
  15. Patrick

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    Yes,I always thought the definition of a public place was somewhere that the public have a free right of access to which is not the boot of anybodies car.
     
  16. Alex.B

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    I love living out in the sticks :D
     
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    Lol ~ local Police use mountain bikes eh! :D
     
  18. Zachariah

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    I suppose sometimes its acase of what they dont know. For instance if I go from home to my gun club with my rifle in the boot of my car and stop off at the bank to get some money that might be a problem. Only if course if anyone knows whats in the boot. If I have a breakdown how would I get home with my gun? Taxi? Bus? Walk?
     
  19. Treecreeper

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    I think that the way the law looks at this is that if you have anything in your car that could be classed as a weapon, then you could in theory, be charged with possession of an offensive weapon in a public place. I don't think it has anything to do with the public having access to a weapon in our vehicles, it's more about us having access to a weapon in our vehicle when in a public place. I can't give you a link to any legislation on this but I am speaking from personal experience... :(
     
  20. SteveO

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    I understand what you are saying, hopefully the police will see from placing the gun in the boot safely that you are a responsible person, I know having it just laying on the back seat is a bad move but unfortunately that is the way one of my vehicles works as it does not have a boot/separate rear luggage compartment.
     

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