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Homemade vs shopbought

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics' started by norfolk ferret whisperer, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. ratman60

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    hello, how do you get on with your challenger set up, which did you buy 1x 2 x? does it add much weight to shoot, what scope are you using and how far to get good view with eye. did you buy in uk. thankyou to answer.
     
  2. lordlardofframs

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    Weebster, show me an Utrafire C8 that will throw a beam for 800m :D, unfortunately with most things the development costs and producton costs for a limited market will always be expensive.

    But if you put it into context, for your money you get an IR toch which throws a clean beam and is more powerful than most IR lasers, and by changing the IR LED to a colured one, you also have a rifle mounted torch which is more powerfull than a Lightforce lamp.

    On the NV Forum (also on youtube) I have done a home build, DIY version using a D Cell Maglite, The parts alone will cost you £90.00 without the machining and time involved.

    Regards
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    I agree 100% with what you're saying darren I just remarked that it 'look's' a bit like the c8 and other torch's from yingtong land,I guess (no doubt like many others) I was hopeing that the 800ir would be somewhat cheaper than the laser alternatives such as the n1000ap/l808 pulsar....unfortunately as it stands at the moment it cost's more.:(

    I don't see anything on the website that state's you can just buy the torch on it's own,some of us may well have the re-chargeable batteries & charger as well as various scope/torch mounts etc which may well lower the cost to below that of the current laser's,of course for a clean safe light the 800ir cannot be beaten by any laser at the moment.....just wish it was around the £100 mark :D

    All the above aside for a moment,congrats to you for helping to get an alternative to lasers on the market.:up:
     
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    Cheers Weebster, unfortunately, I have nothing to do with Taclight, and was just pleased to see a company so proactive in getting this product to market so quickly .

    As usual, I did the DIY thread, and was inundated with requests to make them for people, I can't make them for the money Taclight are selling them for, let alone give an 18 month guarantee for something made in my shed.

    I am sure you can buy the torch with the IR led, and not the complete kit, give them a call and ask.

    Regards
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    A small confusion on my part I'm sure Darren, but the video seems to suggest 200ir, 400ir, and 800ir versions, but I can only find the 800ir page. I only need it for 200 yard Watec add on ranges at the very most so would rather not have to buy an 800ir when I only need a 200ir model. Have I misunderstood?
     
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    It looks like this could be the white led version on it's own, (without the kit) perhaps they might switch led's for you?

    http://www.taclight.co.uk/dereelight/night-master.html


    I'm still trying to find the lower power 200/400 ones.

    EDIT: Sorry that appears to be non ir cree led ones
     
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    sorry to hijack, but I am also looking for the 200 version and hoping the price is a lot lower, however I've a feeling the labour and parts will be about the same, which may be why they are only offering the 800????
     
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    I emailled them about that yesterday morning but have not had a reply yet.

    They are indeed a pricy company to buy from though:
    A complete 'Damn bright for a standard drop-in' white LED XM-L T6 Ultrafire flashlight can be bought from this UK company for £10.64 inc free delivery: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251095542575?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649


    But the drop in LED unit alone costs £21.95 plus delivery from Taclight. :eek:
     
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    Well Dave and Weebster, following your recommendations I rushed out and bought an Ultrafire T6

    [video=youtube_share;NgavHygTJVw]http://youtu.be/NgavHygTJVw[/video]

    I think I will stick with the Nightmaster 800;)
     
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    The torch I linked to is'nt the same as the one in your video,although the led might be the same.....you'll have to buy the other one and test to be absolutely sure ;)

    I see the 800 ir is available on it's own at £150....i'd better start saving :D
     
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  12. nobbybonez

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    i read this post as illustrating the difference in price of a standard, easily available led drop-in from ebay and taclight. ie, if the hike in price for the drop-in is so great, is this also the case with the nightmaster?

    what led was used in the ultrafire t6 please lard?
     

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