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Hmmm... Answers please?

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by Knightley, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Knightley

    Knightley Moderated user

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    So I have had a discussion with pest control over the phone and spoken to the police!

    I was very surprised to hear that...... With an open ticket on your license, a lot of experience in shooting, reasons explained to your FEO and providing its not on private land and your not being un-safe.... You are able to shoot in the country/woodland where you see fit and it's a safe shot?


    Hmmmm
     
  2. r10hunter

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    If you have permission from the landowner to use that weapon then yes.
    There will be virtually no circumstances where you can use a firearm when not on private land.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    As long as its clear for that calibre and with permission of the landowner
     
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    With an open ticket you can shoot (Providing you have land owners permission) anywhere you want without informing your FEO and you are satisfied that the calibre you are to use is safe.
     
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    Does not need to be cleared if your ticket is open.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    What about "open access land" that I believe the OP and his FEO are referring to?
     
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    Correct
     
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    Correct
     
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    Question for you guys though is, pest control are saying "in simple terms" you can literally head out into the country away from houses and footpaths, and go shooting? But how would you go about finding out who owns the land in the middle of know where with no farm in sight. ???
    Cheers guys
     
  10. Knightley

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    That's what I mean, open access land by anyone who could go there? But is well out the way??
    pcheers
     
  11. r10hunter

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    No landowners permission only.
    All land has an owner. Your pest controller mate is very wrong.
    Cheers Andy
     
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  12. Knightley

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    This is what I thought... I won't go in to the conversatIon we had, but how do you go about then finding out who owns the land of fields upon fields and woodland when there's no farms near by? Council ??

    Cheers
     
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    As you are saying fields these will be farmed by a farmer that is in the area somewhere. Many farmers farm large areas these days. The woodland will most likely be used for game shooting.
    Try to spot a tractor working a field and speak to the driver or look for a 4x4 in a field that could belong to a farmer or gamekeeper.
    Look up farms in the telephone directory.
    Look over the area from the air on google earth for the farm.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    There's a lot of common land around
    The implication is that common land can be used for shooting in these circumstances. I'm not sure I'd like to be the one testing this theory....:eek:
     
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    If you REALY want to know who owns land, then pay a fee, and use the land registry.
    I have an "open" ticket, and a.o.l.q., so it helps to know these things, as it saves the swat team "surprising" you at 2.00 a.m. ! :D:D
     
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    The problem with the land registry is many farmers are tenant farmers.
    A lot of land is leased and sub let, and often tenant farmers or lease holders don't have the shooting rights as these are leased out by the landowners agents separately.

    The landowner has no interest to let any one shoot on the land as he gets his rent anyway, he just lets his tenants give permission as they see fit.

    But the registry could give a good starting point though.

    I think the best way is some leg work around the area to find out who actually farms the land or runs the shoot is the best way.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    I wouldn't thought so,Its against the law to use an airweapon in a public place,the definition of a public place being any where the public has free access to I thought
     
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    Er does not right to roam allow the public to traipse all over private land these days in which case everywhere is virtually public. And don't forget public footpaths traverse farms and woodland all over the country. If you have the land owners permission you pretty much can't go wrong unless you are shooting a .50 cal Barrett at a rabbit with a buch of livestock and ramblers as a backstop.
     
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    I think the right to roam only applies to places such as moorland and not cultivated land i.e farmland.If there are public footpaths across farmland any body using them should keep to the said path, it does not give them the right to deviate off it and if they do the landowner or anyone acting for him has the right to insist they keep to the foot path.
     
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    That's What the OP is questioning, if I have read it properly. Given a(un)certain set of circumstances it seems you can.
    As stated I would never test these suppositions, as I have no wish for a van full of armed feds or a BBC sensation squad surrounding me.
    Neither am I arguing for or against the OP.
    Just adding to the discussion really.
     

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