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Help with pcp charging

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by helicopter tail, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. helicopter tail

    helicopter tail Active Member

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    Hi guys, am picking up my s400 today as recommended by a few of you, but will need a way of charging is it really that hard to charge with a pump and are they ok? Have heard they can let moisture into the gun ? Or shall I just get a bottle if so where from and where to charge, I'm in Suffolk . Cheers.
     
  2. scottwood

    scottwood Engaging Member

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    Pumps aren't that bad it just means you actually have to put some effort in to get it filled instead of just twisting your hand. They can let moisture in if used incorrectly like a cylinder. Just get a good pump and read instructions and you will be fine.
     
  3. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    A pump is going to be good exercise for you but should work well enough if you keep the rifle topped up. Should you let the air pressure drop too far than the rifle is likely to vent all the air and then refilling with a pump can be difficult. Obviously they use air which is not dry although some can have a drier fitted while the air in a bottle has been dried and will not contain any moisture. There are reports saying that moisture has damaged their rifle cylinder and as many reports saying the opposite.
    I get my bottle filled at Galaxsea dive centre in Ipswich (there is another in the town as well) and they might have used cylinders for sale but I haven't been in there for a while.
    Since a pump will cost roughly the same as a bottle I would go the bottle route every time, you just need to remember to get it filled when required and that it will need to be tested every 5 years.
     
  5. Shropshire Shooter

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    The pump v bottle debate has been going on for years. For ease of use the bottle wins hands down - if you've got easy access to a shop with a compressor.

    On the other hand, using a pump is far easier than some would lead you to believe - I'm a not especially fit 58 year old and never have any problems. You should stop after every 50 or so strokes to prevent the pump overheating, and at the same time bleed the hose to drain off any moisture in the condensation trap (I've never seen a pump without one).

    As for the horror stories about gun damage, I've recently opened the cylinders on two of my PCPs (a Raider and an S200) for maintenance - both were clean as a whistle without a trace of moisture, corrosion or dirt, despite having only been filled since new with an RWS pump. The pump was purchased new in 2001 with the S200 and has never required any attention.

    I've heard that some guns can be difficult to fill from empty with a pump but the two guns above just need to be cocked to allow filling.
     
  6. Clubshot

    Clubshot Clubshot

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    I used sell Air bottles - when more available

    I alway's used to have a pump for owners to try - Still got pump - after 100's of bottles sold -

    As stated getting in the first 100 is easy it's the last 100 that's the killer ;)

    Another issue is laying the gun on the floor near to pump - often herd and seen slips -

    BOB/R
     
  7. Shropshire Shooter

    Shropshire Shooter Well-Known Member

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    I always fill mine in the house - gun is on the bed or the sofa, and the pump tends to be fairly well anchored to the floor by my feet. Not quite sure what you've seen or heard slipping, but I'd hazard a guess that a 12 litre bottle would do a damned sight more damage than the average pump if it fell onto a gun - by definition a gun on the floor isn't about to fall anywhere :D
     
  8. jeremy

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    Well I have asthma and filling my falcon is easy enough just top it up after each trip out, and use your body weight to pump easy then.
     

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