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Question Help With First Pcp Purchase ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by LEEO1582, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. LEEO1582

    LEEO1582 Newbie

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    I have been into air rifle shooting for a little over 2 years now and have been using a single pellet break barrel.
    I want to “upgrade” and get a PCP rifle, a decent scope and some form of night vision set up but am lost following weeks of research ?
    Can any of you guys recommend a set up that would be a good progression for me ?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Herbie87

    Herbie87 Posting Addict

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    Welcome :thumb:

    A lot will depend on budget, but the usual suspects will of course be recommended.

    My 2p worth - second hand HW100 Carbine, something like a 3-12 mag scope such as an Optisan EVX (good with NV) then I'd go for a homemade NV add-on kit to start with to see how you get on before investing in something like a Pard.

    Good luck with the decision making :D
     
  3. TORNADOS7

    TORNADOS7 Major Poster

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    S410 for the rifle, as for scope/night vision "well" scopes are a personal thing and I don't know much about night vision cos I still use a lamp, Yukon Photon would be my personal choice though I think...
     
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    Any of the usual suspects in the popular PCP range are great...

    S410, HW100... but budget for a 300 bar dive cylinder... or if you’re super-human a stirrup pump... both similar prices.

    NV is still quite expensive, even the ‘budget’ stuff that looks really belt and braces with wires hanging everywhere is not cheap...

    Pard 007 clip-on is probably the cheapest ‘proper’ compact NV system but you’re looking at around £350 at least
     
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    i use an s400 for everything. havent got a clue about nv, although i use a cheapo aldi nv for spotting, then lamp on for the shot.
    they dont seem get as lamp shy when you're not waving the lamp around spotting em :up:
     
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    Lev Levvin Pro Poster

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    This is exactly how I did my night hunting for the past 18 years...
    Handheld NV spotter and a red lamp on the rifle for the shot
     
  7. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Can't help with the NV as I don't use it, but with the rifle I'd probably try and get a lightweight model if you're adding extra kit to it.
    A secondhand Airarms S200 would be good, plus alot of owners stick a 10-shot mag conversion on them.
     
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    ...I can't fault my HW 110... as for night vision, I used to think start small, ie. homemade; but if you're real set on NV and you have use for it..them go big... no add ons to mess around with, a dedicated NV scope and the best your budget will allow.
    saving money on hobbies by buying cheaper solutions often ends up more expensive and frustrating... when somewhere deep down you know what really want---that's what to aim for.
    I've spent too much money in my life on the cheaper alternative..so splash out and have fun!!
     
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    Rifles...go shoulder some. For NV hunting I'd go BSA Ultra, S200 (with mag conversion), S410 or even a S410 TDR

    For NV - check out @terry1001 's guide to making a home brew (NV section).....you'll have a very nice set up for not much money. You'll soon find out if you like add on TVs or prefer a scope set up.

    For scope, the optisan mamba lites are hard to beat for NV. If you want to jump straight in, then pard 007 or 008
     
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  10. shumba

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    Going off track slightly if you are going over to PCP, Why not allow a bit of extra cash for a mini compressor ,it will make things such a lot easier for you. As most converts have already found out, The ability to do home recharging is a revelation as far as PCP ownership is concerned.
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    What's your budget ?
    Are you wanting new or used kit?
     
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    Regal Man Keyboard Hero

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    Welcome Leeo , first of all budget, ? are you buying new ? How much night shooting, are going to do ? Are you planning to buy once , or upgrade again ?
     
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    Welcome Lee welcome.gif
    Couple of questions first
    You say upgrade to PCP but which springer do you already have? You may be able to have a separate day and night rifle which could then dictate your choices mate. Always go for quality and don't run before you can walk.
     
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    sharpsman Keyboard Hero

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    My advise would be don't jump in to fast , read up as much as you can and try to handle as many as possible and then still take your time .
     
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    Jagdwaffen Suns up guns up

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    Hi mate.....take your time, visit RFD’s and shoulder the ones you fancy. There’s no rush there not going anywhere, the market is flooded with second hand stock and new rifles are mostly at entry level off the shelf.

    Some 2nd hand rifles on this forum can be absolute belting rifles if buying from well established seasoned members and enthusiasts. Air Arms and Weihrauch would be my steer.....but it’s all dependant on what you feel comfy shouldering and what it’s going to be used for. Keep us posted and welcome matey
     
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    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    If you have done your research Leo then you know you need to give a lot more info to get a good recommendation :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't discard some of the Chinese pcp's
    They are a lot better than they were a few years ago .
     
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    What about an RM8? Regged, high shot count, very, very accurate, nice stock, reliable and a bargain price.

    ;)
     
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    HW100kt you cant go far wrong with that.
     

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