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Advice HELP!! trigger fix...

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by JonnyA88, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. JonnyA88

    JonnyA88 Well-Known Member

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    I've been tinkering and think I've ruined the trigger, these two pieces came away from the trigger assembly and now I can't get then back together, I would prefer to try this myself before admitting my mistake and taking it to the gunsmith.

    Basically these two parts and spring came loose when the pivot pin was taken out.
    WP_000702.jpg And left this space in the trigger WP_000705.jpg WP_000703.jpg

    It's from a stoeger X20 can any one tell me if there's a instruction manual about how to repair this I feel such a **** considering the trigger assembly comes apart in one piece....

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I'm in the middle of refurbishing the rifle I'm a third through the stock and wanted to do the blueing as I'd found a popular product that should give the desired finish but now I'm stuck with a trigger that won't work.... gutted.
     

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    I did exactly the same thing, knocked the pins out of the X20 trigger mechanism and the lot fell to bits.

    After searching for ages on the internet I came to the conclusion that there are no trigger tutorials for this trigger and only by trial, error and logically looking at the parts and how they interacted with each other I managed to piece it back together.... sadly I only did it once and can't remember how it goes together now!

    I'll have a look to see if I took any pic's at the time and post back.

    Edit: Don't think it's much use but this appears to be the only picture I took! :(
     

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    I think it' very similar to the trigger unit in a lot of the Gamo air rifles so if you can find a diagram ofone of them that might help.
     
  4. JonnyA88

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    Thanks Steve-o that's what I'm planning on doing, just trial and error I'm hoping it'll pop back together but the photo you posted is a great help at least I can see which way the pins go. I've got a few pics too and the exploded diagram of the stoeger X20 so between these I should be able to get by.

    Also joined the Chinese airgun forum as I've heard and read on here it's a good resource for the stoegers..

    Thanks again!!
     
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    Hi try this.:D
     

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    Found a couple more that might help!
     

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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Why not buy a Welsh Willy Trigger unit while you have it in bits?
     
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    THANKS Stu!!

    Appreciate that.

    Could do with a new trigger but it's more about getting it right now before I fit a new one haha.
     
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    Well despite all your help I'm still without a working trigger, I'm stumped
    May as well leave it in pieces until I've done the blueing then get the local gunsmith put it back together probably cost me £50 but guess that's the price I pay for stupidity.

    Anyone else know of a step by step for this trigger?? Really want to get it right.

    Thanks again to everyone has helped!!! Really appreciate it!!!
     
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    Shame I wasnt closer ive modded one of those triggers myself there a very easy trigger to work on.
     
  11. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Buy a welsh willy trigger unit, they come with full fitting instructions....
     
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    By the look of it its been stripped a little further than it needs to be for a welsh willy trigger .
    There are some trigger upgrade vids here that might help.

    Oops, i thought that would link to a you tube video.
    If you do a you tube search for stoeger trigger it will come up then.
    Good luck.
     
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    5909711454_49b4cfc40c_b.jpg also watch this video might help pause it 1.48. u can see into the trigger house-in and it might help you were the second parts goes. as you can see were one part goes in the pic i just posted good luck.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-jYDogthNE
     
  14. JonnyA88

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    Appreciate it Stu but think I've sussed it??

    I've managed to get it together looking somewhat normal.

    WP_000719.jpg WP_000720.jpg

    Think this it is it, I've got one question, and its easier put like this... should it look like this: WP_000727.jpg Sketch2014-38-21_12:38:43.jpg when its put back into the body of the rifle? Do the two pins flatten seen circled in the second picture.

    Also is this sear pin meant to stick out past the top of the assembly like this?:
    Sketch2014-36-21_12:36:39.jpg I hope this is fixed, I'm going to follow the guide stu posted for reassembly it should be what I need to get it back together, one more question. Do I need a spring tensioner? Or can I do it el macho style? As the guide says, I need them?
     
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    no the pin doesn't protrude, and no you shouldn't need to compress the spring.
     
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    D'oH :facepalm: can't believe it, back to the table then.... so where does that spring go? What does it rest against? I've looked high and low but no diagrams show the true assembly,

    Plus the photo of the compressed spring was to show what it should look like in the rifle hidden within the spring? Not like it should be pressed flat (if that makes sense lol).
     
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    it's not quite the same trigger but close enough to give you an inkling where the parts should go.

    The spring that was protruding should clip onto the side of the sear somewhere to hold it under tension when it latches the piston engagement notch as it comes back whilst cocking. When you pull the trigger the levers disengage to release the piston.

    If you still have trouble I'll strip mine down and take some pictures.
     
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    That's what I'm aiming for, Going to take the links advice and rest it behind the pin that holds the top part in place so it gains tension then I'm going to try and get it back together,

    One last thing, although you've been a great help already, do I need a spring tensioner?? Every other site recommends them what would you say??
     
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    No the main spring on the Stoeger is under no tension (or very little) bang the plastic block out at the back after you have removed the pin, it won't fly out or anything.
     

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