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Question HELP!!! Struggling with first air rifle

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by George.Mcdonald, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. George.Mcdonald

    George.Mcdonald Newbie

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    I have been interested in air guns for a while but have only now decided to go ahead and purchase one. the problem is that i am really struggling to decide what would be best for me. There are so many guns and so much conflicting information. any help would be greatly appreciated. I hope to use the rifle for targets and small game - ie squirrels and rabbits. I would need to check the legality of hunting birds.
    i would like to spend less the £200 ideally.
    what i am looking at so far:

    gamo .177 shadow sport
    stoeger .177 x20 supressed
    crossman .177 phantom
    crossman .177 optimus

    Thanks!
     
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    It can be confusing mate , best bit of advice handle a few rifles see what suits you ie size weight etc . Have a look in sales section as I would say you may get a decent rifle for £200 ish . There's also a sticky thread I believe which explains species you can legally hunt ( obviously with permission ! ) . Keep asking questions here and use the forum to its fullest as its helped me out more than any magazines , YouTube vids or google ! Enjoy mate
     
  4. mark.177

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    for £200 mate... find the extra £20 pop down your dealer and ask to hold a weihrauch hw99. make sure its a new model with the cocking linkage delrin mod. try it for size. cracking guns and you wont find better for the money.
     
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  5. SteveO

    SteveO Top Poster

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    This!
     
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    Yep a 99 is the way to go...a very, very good springer and a great price
     
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    Hi mate , I bought my so the stoeger x20 .177 for Christmas used it a bit now for plinking in the garden ,it does seem quite powerful and is quite accurate at 25yrds . The only problem I've found with it is the stock feels small and being a bit chunky the gun would be better for a small or younger chap. Gone through all the pain in choosing a gun myself as just started out. Best thing try your local shop and try as many as poss if you find a good one some have a range for a quick test. I went second hand and got a sweet BSA ultra complete set up £325 . As for the others you looking at can't say but a lot of the reviews will help in that. Pcp is a great way to go .Good luck in your quest ....:D
     
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    Hi George. The lads are right the HW99 is an excellent rifle and will more than cover your needs, As with all springers the vital part is how to hold/shoot them, but this all comes with practise, There will always be plenty of help on this forum if you need it. Atb Paul.
     
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    Hi mate. Out of your list i would choose the stoeger as i hear good things. you wont go wrong with a hw99 though as everyone here is obsessed with that rifle, and i wouldn't argue against them. personally i think it looks a bit ugly compared to its daddy the hw95 :p
     
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    Dont forget a 2nd hand HW95.
     
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    If you want to spend less than half the cost of a HW99 and still have a great gun,try an Hatsan Mod55s or Mod60s(both £100,difference is calibre),decent wooden stock,tru-glo sights,quality trigger.
    I have one and shoot it just as often as my target PCP rifles,then when you get better at shooting,fit a tuning kit to it and it's a whole new gun
     
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    i had a stoegerx20 and loved it, i think they are a subsidiary of berretta, never had a pick of bother with it
     
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    I'd also recommend the Hw 99. It's around your budget. I've handled and shot everything on your list, and in my opinion the 99 is in a completely different league.
    Regards, Stu.
     
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    No,no,no...none of the above.
    Get a Weihrauch, new or used....95/ 99/ 57 any of these. Get it tuned, job done. It may cost a little more than those on your list but it will work out much cheaper in the long run.

    Pete.
     
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    I would pick the weihrauch hw99. If you don't fancy spending that much money though, the new Hatsan mod55's are great guns.

    Have fun:up:,

    Alex
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    If tempted to go on the big splurge, by an HW99, the Rekord trigger is worth the few extra quid over the Stoeger trust me.

    The Stoeger is an BAM XS19 made in China, thing is it is stuck in a stock designed by Beretta (Beretta? Ladies gun 007, you want the Walther PPK!) Then it is marketed by the American arm of the Italian company, sort of like a Chopsuey Spaghetti with fries! Noted for an abysmal trigger that is easily sorted by a Welsh Willy trigger unit!

    The HW99 is made in Germany, designed by the German company (sometimes some HW rifles are marketed in America as a Beeman). Usually high quality build but there have been very notable exceptions of late!

    The Hastan 55 and Hatsan 60 is a developement of the Webley Omega, made in Turkey by Hatsan, incorporating developments by Webley (such as the Quattro trigger). They have a whole host of innovative features, not least the lovely walnut stock and Quattro trigger. They shoot like a much more expensive gun, simply because they are (the same gun is sold in a slightly different stock as the Webley Stingray mark 2 for twice the price).

    My choice in order of preference would be

    1) HW99

    2) Hatsan 55 or 60

    3) Stoeger X20

    Tuning kits are available for all 3!
     
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    Good advice above! SGM's got it:up:
     
  19. George.Mcdonald

    George.Mcdonald Newbie

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    Wow,
    What a great site!
    thanks for all the replies. This has really helped me and im going to head down to my local air rifle shop in reading and ask to have a look at the weihrauchs and maybe a few other.
    Again, thanks for all the replies and im sure this wont be my only thread haha :)
     
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    S.A.M's list of preference above is bang on the money!
     

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