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HELP NEEDED BADLY

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by TheBish, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. TheBish

    TheBish Junior Member

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    HELP, I have sold my old scope and its Censored mounts because it didnt want to zero, but now I have bought new mounts and a new scope (mtc mamba lite 4-16x50) and it still WONT ZERO, need some advice and assistance because I am severely p****d off and quite worried.
    Now that I have cooled down, i am starting at a lower range to zero, I started at 15 yards the elevation needed no adjustment but it is shooting 3 inches to the left, please diagnose me.
    Many thanks A REALLY ANNOYED
    Alex
     
  2. mattyts

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    Sure its not your gun?
     
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    I have considered but the shop i got it from 'serviced' it. So not quite sure... :(
    Atb Alex
     
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    Turn 10 clicks to right...recheck and move clicks as required..once pellet hits pellet at 15yards move out to 35 yards , unless u want a 30yard zero..
     
  5. Pidlar

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    Just to rule out the scope and mounts. Turn the mounts through 180 and see if still shoots 3 inches left.
     
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    What mounts are you using? What pellets and rifle are you using? just to give a good idea of set up?
     
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    Richter optiks double screw mounts (med), mtc mamba lite 4-16x44, air arms s410k
    IMGP5023.jpg
     
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    Did this happen before u had the gun serviced ?
     
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    I bought it after it was serviced.
    Atb Alex
     
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    -Check the figure 8 on the barrel, they can skew the barrel one way.
    Have you actually removed the turret caps??

    -Swap the mounting rings back to front.
    -Turn the mounts so the bolts face the other way.

    How are you zero-ing the scope??
    When you are shooting 3 inches to the left do you have the elevation turret unscrewed almost as much as you can.
     
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    Could be clipping pellets on the silencer or muzzle brake. Any signs? You could have overtightend the mounts damaging the scope? Possibly the turret is faulty.... Bit of a strange one, not heard of it before only shooting one direction.
     
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    Following on from my comment...have u tried turning the windage turret ???... If gun has been serviced they will have removed scope thus turrets will of out of zero again...:up:
     
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    I hope he has aha, you don't need to pull the turrets up either, just rotate them. Also try it on another gun, as they rarely go faulty these scopes.
     
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    Only the gun was serviced, and despite how stupid I sound, YES I know how to turn a bloody turret, i guess it is the gun.
    Atb Alex
     
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    Ok ok..so have u turned the windage clicks to the right..if so it would move poi ...
     
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    You're welcome to pop round to Coltishall and try another scope.

    Dave
     
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    You have a combination that should shoot well. Things can go wrong however and it would be worth trying some of the basics, but one at a time so that you can see if anything does make a difference.
    First remove the silencer, sometimes the pellets clip the baffles or exit hole.
    second slacken the screws clamping the barrel band in place, sometimes the rifle gets a knock and the barrel can get moved out of slignment and stay there.
    Try clamping the rifle in something like a workmate, fire a 3 shot group and then try moving the windage screw half a turn and see if the point of impact does move
    Don't be afraid to move in even closer to start with
    Swap the mounts front to rear
    Swap the mounts by turning them through 180 degrees so that the fixing bolts are on the other side to where they are now
    Check these things to see if any one of them makes a difference, if you can find the problem you can start to zero properly again, good luck.
     
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    I know how to zero a scope but i am running out of adjustments (left) on the scope
    Thanks for the suggestion Dave, but I just got this one and I am thinking of keeping it.
    Atb Alex
     
  19. timmytree

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    Loads of info but it might be better if Alex started from the beginning and told us what he's done so far?
    Alex, start by centralizing the scope, turn each turret adjuster from end to end and count the clicks, then reset to the middle of that range, set up a large card or paper with a simple large cross on it at 10 yards, Fire one shot at the cross, adjust the windage first (left and right) until you hit the vertical line. If you run out of adjustment then you have a problem with mounts, scope or barrel band. (probably)
    Then do the same with the vertical until you are about one inch below the cross. Then move your target out to 15 or 16 yards and adjust again, if that zeros ok you will also be zeroed at about 35/36 yards or thereabouts.
    Try that first and let us know what happens.
    Regards
    Tim

    Just read the newer post so yes, swap mounts, check barrel band and look to see if the dovetails are straight, I saw a Prosport recently where the dovetails were well on the pish.
     
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    Check the barrel and scope rail correlation, they should really be pointing in line. Maybe when it was serviced they removed the Barrel or something and it's miss aligned (pointing slightly left) so you can't correct enough for this. Try shooting at closer ranges and see where the impact point is....
    If you zero horizontally at closer ranges that to me would say rifle or scope mounts. You wouldn't happen to have the scope mounts bolts going in the mounts from left to right when looking at the rifle from behind?
     

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