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Help In Buying My First Pcp

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by mitov08, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. mitov08

    mitov08 Well-Known Member

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    Hello All,

    I recently got into this hobby and began loving it. First we purchased the cross man vendetta followed by a SMK b2 deluxe. An all right rifle with a horrendous trigger pressure..

    I am looking to get into the PCPs as I tested a few and fell in love. Do you have any recommendations for me? Nothing high tier (£1000.00) as my maximum budget for the entire set up for an PCP is £500...

    I know you get what you pay for but I was hoping anybody could help a noob out. Currently considering SMK M11
     
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    hughlle Very Active

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    Welcome to the forum. Do you have access to a dive shop or club for filling a bottle, or are you looking at getting a pump?

    Personally I'd be looking at second hand and looking at something like an air arms s400
     
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  3. timmytree

    timmytree Big Poster

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    Whatever PCP you buy you'll need to factor in extra for a pump or bottle, bag, scope and mounts. It all starts to add up!
    In your position I would look at a Gamo Phox kit, you'll get everything you need to start and just in your budget. It's not the best PCP but it's far from the worst either.
    I got one earlier in the year for my son to use on the rare occasion he comes out with me and for the price it's surprisingly good.
     
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    robs5230 леший

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    A new BSA Ultra SE single shot is only a few quid more than the M11 you're thinking of.

    As said above, don't rule out second hand rifles. Always plenty about and you should get the whole kit within your budget.
     
  5. Patrick

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    If you go the secondhand route it may be advisable to buy from a reputable RFD because being a complete novice i suspect you know sod all about PCPs.Please don't take any offence at that remark it's just that buying privately can be a bit of a minefield unless you know who you're dealing with and perhaps the gun's history. If you buy from a reputable dealer you should get some sort of warranty with the gun which will almost certainly be at least 3 months.If you do buy privately ask to see the gun being filled and ask to try it,after all you don't want to get the gun home and find it doesn't hold air or leaks on being filled or it has some other fault.Remember when buying privately it is "Caveat Emptor" ( let the buyer beware) in other words you have little redress should a problem arise with the gun after you've bought it unless the seller deliberately lied to you when you asked them anything.It may be advisable to take someone knowledgeable with you as a precaution or even if they not knowledgeable or experienced with PCPs at least you have a witness to anything you ask and to anything the seller says should a problem arise.
    For a max of £500 it's very much doubtful if you can or probably impossible to find a complete outfit i.e rifle ,scope and bottle/cylinder or pump new. A new rifle alone will cost a minimum of about £400 so for a complete kit second hand may be the only option.
    The only new complete outfit i know of for that money(£500) is the Gamo Phox.it comes as a rifle,scope and pump.
     
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    Welcome to the forum, Mitov, :wave:

    Good advice from Patrick. :up:
     
  7. Regal Man

    Regal Man Keyboard Hero

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    First off what cal, do you want to shoot ? 177 20 22 25 ? That is away, to narrow the choice.
    20 and .25 are limited.
    177 and 22 worlds your oyster.
    I would personally, shoulder, and shoot as many different guns as i can, buy what feels the most comfortable.
    Every gun maker, produces guns that have problems. its luck of the draw if you get a good one or not. In other words whatever you buy is a total gamble, buy new and have a warrenty thats my advise.
     
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    .177 Air Arms S400/S410; used if you have the balls / knowledge as it'll be a lot cheaper than a new one.

    Job done ;)
     
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    ^^^ This ^^^

    Or, in honesty i would give serious consideration to a quality springer like an Air Arms TX200, personally the shorter 'HC' version is my preference.
     
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    rascaltrousers Busy Member

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    If you want to buy new to play safe. Consider the Kral NP02. £350 new leaves money for reasonable scope and pump or small dive cylinder. I wrote a review on this forum with oics so have a look. I rate it highly,
     
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  11. mitov08

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    Hello All,

    I have purchased a scope for my SMK B2 Deluxe: Will attach the picture.

    I am currently not a member of a club, but have access to potentially a fill up spot. Will ask this weekend when I go shoot the B2. Currently I am firing .22

    I would like to start firing 177, regarding the preference a multi shot magazine is preferred over the single shot as you are constantly loading like crazy. I had a look at the pumps and they seem to be around 25... Thank you all for the welcome and replies!

    The current springer is amazing regarding performance (after zeroing), however the trigger pull is so stiff its crazy... Easily above 10lb pressure.. Its single stage also which does not really help.
     

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    I think it depends on where you want to go with this. If you opt for a springer do not scrimp on the cost. I've got an HW110 but I'm considering buying either a TX200 or an HW97. I've noticed at the club I go to that cheaper springers just don't give the same accuracy. Great for plinking but not that good for serious target work. I'm new to this but I would think, and I could be wrong, that most PCP's offer reasonable accuracy/consistency and the cost is down to build quality and longevity.

    Alan
     
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    Wait on buying the M11 or M22 for a few weeks... then look at one. Or alternatively look at the Artemis M16 or M30.

    But don't rush into the M11/M22 YET. Trust me. ;):D
     
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    I got the Gamo Phox kit for £499. Everything you need to get going and tbh I can’t fault it. Except the scope. The scopes crap
     
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    New = a Kral npo2, this can be found for £330, £70 on a scope, that leaves you with £100 for a new pump or secondhand dive bottle.
    Secondhand = Airarms S200 or S400, you should be able to get a whole kit + bottle for that.
     
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    Airarms S200 or S400 (S400 bit easier to load + better trigger) both extremely accurate.
     
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    You will sometimes see people on here selling the whole set up, I did just that, paid £400 for a barely used Ultra with good scope, tripod, air tank and a very good Buffalo river gun bag.
     
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Welcome to the forum mate.

    Lots of great suggestions already above.
     
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    If its £25, I would be VERY hesitant using it with a PCP. You're not after a regular stirrup pump designed for bikes etc, and you probably don't want a cheap Chinese thing. Better to budget £100 or so and look at a Hills or FX pumps.
     
  20. Jukebox

    Jukebox Better to burn out...than to fade away.

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    Welcome to the forum.
    See your localish to me so if you drive get yourself down Black Brook shooting between Bassets Pole and Lichfield and use their range mate.
    Plenty of decent folk there that will let you have a shoot of their guns and help you with any questions. Also charge your gun up for 50p and some bargains on the classified board in the covered shooting range. :thumb:
     

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