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Advice HELP !! Charging BSA Ultra with Hills pump

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Danny MFC, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. Danny MFC

    Danny MFC Well-Known Member

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    Hi all, Just brought my first PCP a bsa ultra se multi shot, just brought a new unused hills 3stage stirrup pump (off of here) when trying to fill the air is escaping from the fill adaptor end which is plugged into the guns cylinder. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong as I'm a PCP novice.. It can't be rocket science, you fit your fill adaptor (mine has a little hole on one side) align that with the hole on my rifles cylinder and pump? The gun is currently on around 150BAR mark as the seller sent it to me full.

    thanks danny
     
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    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Hello,

    are the o-rings on the fill probe ok?
     
  3. Danny MFC

    Danny MFC Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the reply Stevie, O-rings on the fill probe? I'm new to airgunning so I haven't much knowledge. When I connect the pump up and pump without it being connected to the rifle it works fine, air just isn't entering the air cylinder.m
     
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    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    On the bit that plugs into the gun there will be 2 black rubber rings, do they look ok??
     
  5. Danny MFC

    Danny MFC Well-Known Member

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    Oh in that case yes O-rings are intact
     
  6. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Ok,

    try rubbing a wee bit of vasiline on the rings, doesn't matter if the 2 holes are not alined just plug in and pump.

    Mine does it From time to time, I normally give it a wiggle, and away it goes.
     
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    Tadpole Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Just a thought, you do have the correct 'fill probe' the BSA one is shown here with black o rings the other is a Logun hth .............. :coffee:

    BSA Probe.JPG Filling Probe.jpg
     
  8. firebucket1415

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    make sure the probe is screwed onto the pumps pipe, really,really tightly. use the correct size spanners, tighten it as tight as you can, then tighten it a bit more. I was scared to oik it up,i thought it might strip the threads. if you don't it will leak. and it sound as though it is leaking from the guns cylinder too.
     
  9. Danny MFC

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    Sorry for the delay in reply all.

    Tadpole my fill probe is slightly different to that ill get a picture up shortly.

    Stevie - thank you very much ill give that a try.

    Firebucket I think you are right I haven't tightend the full adaptor very tight, it's hand tight at the moment. Ill try all of the above and see. Thanks very much to all of you, this forum is blinding!
     
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    Did you say to oil the probe ect then to tighten it? It's real stiff. Don't wanna go breaking anything :confused:
     
  11. Andy1

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    Hi mate , I have a mmc ultra and have the same problem at times found that when pumping it sounds as its leaking ,then after a few pumps the hissing stops and the pressure rises fine. There is a fine line between probe fully in and not quite which will cause leakage.
    Good luck
     
  12. Danny MFC

    Danny MFC Well-Known Member

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    Hey Andy.

    I've tightened the fill probe into the hose, didn't have spanners so I improvised with pliers.
    the gun fills, I get to 150 bar (reading from hills pump gauge) the. It get really hard to pump, I pumped through it, heard a loud(ish) bang.. The hose flew out. Safe to say I'm having a nightmare haha. Should have stuck to my tx200hc! I tried again, around 150 bar the pump got hard to pump again so instead of damaging the gun I stopped and removed the hose, heard a loud air bang again. Is this normal? Guys at the range didn't seem to have this problem lol.
     
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    Is there a pressure relase valve on the pump?as the hose will be at the same pressure as the cylinder. You need to release it first.
     
  14. Danny MFC

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    There is mate yes, I watched a YouTube video the gun tightened that valve before he began pumping? So tighten valve, pump, loosen then re tighten valve, remove hose. Got it. Thanks
     
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    Just another thought is there a grub screw present up the inside of the fill probe? If its there its recommended that you remove it when using a pump.
    Regards,Stu
     
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    No mate no grub screw. Do you know why the fill probe would fly out of the gun at 150bar? Almost asif the pressure of me pumping fired it out..
     
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    No idea.Can you see the gauge rising on the gun as the gauge is rising on the pump?
    just out of interest how many shots have you fired from new if it came to you full.Sounds like the fill valve isnt opening to let air in if its shooting the probe out.
    Regards,Stu.
     
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    As above.
    Try a bottle it will often free a valve that is a little sticky.
    Cheers Andy
     
  19. Danny MFC

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    The gun came to me off of the huntinglife forum. It was sold as '4months old' the pressure rises on the pump fine but as it get to around 150bar (on the pump gauge) it becomes resistant. Ill keep trying, just hope I don't break anything I want to get to Petes farm Sunday.
     
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    Thanks Andy, ill see if there is anyone kind enough to let me use theirs at petes on Sunday.
     

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