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Help!! Can you identify this old springer?

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by caseytx200, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. caseytx200

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    Hi all, I inherited this old spring rifle. It was owned by my in laws. not much info is known other than the last owner would have been70 and had it when he was a boy. I have had a look on the web and it seems to be from 1910 to 1940 with no make markings on it other than the word "precision" stamped into the top of the barrel and the numbers 2446 stamped underneath the barrel. The stock has been painted black and the wood is split. It is 0.177 calibre, and still shoots!! The break-barrel is opened by a lever on the side. I would love to know what it is if anyone can help??
     

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    That looks like a 90 year old BSA to me.
     
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    one more full length photo
     

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    bsa "breakdown" junior rifle...
     
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    BSA standard?
     
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    standard is an underlever, thats a break barrel..

    its a bsa "breakdown" junior air rifle..
     
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    Not like any Pre war BSA i have ever seen...the stock is not right at all.....what does the lever do?
     
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    Defo not a BSA Breakdown....i do own one
     
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    Hi it looks like a precision made by Oscar will in Germany. Dates between 1927 to 1939
     
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    That's the one.

    I had thought midland gun company but that had no release lever.
     
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    It might be a Tell, they were both made by Oscar
     
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    Yes, and both look pretty much identical from what I can see.

    Ok, it's one of em! I think.
     
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    Flintlock pistol?
     
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    Wow!
    This one has caused a few different responses. I have a little look around on the net and it does seem to look more like the Tell than anything else. I can't find anything on the net with pictures of the precision and as it has this stamped on the barrel, I would like to see one "in pictures" just to sure. Still open to other suggestions.

    The lever is a break barrel lock, you turn it to allow the barrel to be breached!

    Can an anyone find any links??
     
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    If you google 'oscar will precision air rifles'
    And look at images there are some images from a b b s thread. The images direct from the thread are no longer there but are still in google images.
     
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    Not a BSA of any description. I have a few.
    Probably '30, pre war by its half stock style, post war rifles tended to be full stocked.
    2446 could be a serial number but tends to be a batch or operators number on the cheaper end of the market notably with the gems.
    Look afte it and have fun.
     
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    It's definitely a Tell air rifle by Oscar Will of Venuswaffenwerks Zella Mehllis, Germany..

    Anyone with the Collectors guide to Air rifles by Dennis Hiller (enlarged third edition) can find the info on page 205/206..


    John :)
     
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    dont ya just love German names "The Venus Weapon Works:! :)
     
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    Having looked at the images it is an exact copy of the rifle!! The only thing missing is the trigger adjustment screw, though there is a screw thread in the trigger guard and the guard is slightly more fancy!

    I can't get hold of the antique air rifles guide to see the picture of the Tell to see if it is the same.

    A big thank you to everyone who helped with the identification of the rifle, correct or not.

    Assuming I can find another non split stock, how else would I go about restoring this old thing, which would mean the metal?
     

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