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Hawke Fastmount 3-9 X 40 Ao Scope

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by oodish, Feb 26, 2020.

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  1. oodish

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    Hello all,

    I have managed to pick up my first scope today, one of these Hawke Fastmount 3-9 x 40 AO for £50. As far as i can see the only difference to the Vantage which everyone reccomends is that it is a 2 piece tube and not a Mono tube? Plus it came with mounts which i also needed lol. Anyone had or used one, thoughts??

    Cheers Dave :)
     
  2. sharpsman

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    You can't complain for the money the hawke are good value at the lower end of the scale ,
     
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    Yep, that's what i thought. As its a new hobby i didn't want to spend mega money just yet but didn't want unreliable gear either. So far i have managed to grab my HW99s, Hawke Scope, Bag and Pellets all new from different places and spent about £260 in total.
     
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    Welcome oodish. Sounds like a bargain package :thumb:
     
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    Aston_Shooter Busy Member

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    They're not bad to be honest, pretty good value.

    Check the mounts though, they're OK but not great. I've had a couple where the screws are cr@p (badly formed heads etc). They will do the job though.

    Also, don't take it as a given that the mounts are a) aligned and b) tight enough. People take it as a given but it's often not the case. No big issue of course, but just one to check.

    But yeah, not a bad scope at all for the price you pay ;)
     
  6. mikeyhall1

    mikeyhall1 2018 & 2019 Forum Nice Guy

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    Great scopes, punch above their weight
     
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    Pleides CORVID DISPATCHER and DONATOR

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    I have the same on my three lads. Good scope for the spec and price :up:
     
  8. Virak

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    My 1st scope was a 6-24 x50 AO, bought a year ago, fine except I now realise my eye/brain likes fine graticules( spent a lifetime using microscopes), the inked graticule I could not get on with, for 25/35 yd 10 + 15mm targets, the graticule seems to be in my.
    Am sure fine for many people certainly
    Used it on an AA400 carbine started HFT bought an Airmax compact 4-16x44.
    Sold the Fastmount to a lady that shoots Rimfire on eba*.
    Asked her to advise how she got on as I had zeroed it via a mirror.
    Her 1st 5 shots at 125yds ( don't no anything about Rimfire) gage a group the size of her compact( face pad case).
    She was really chuffed.

    Seems not a lot wrong with them then
     
  9. TORNADOS7

    TORNADOS7 Major Poster

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    I didn't have a great experience with mine if I'm honest... :shrug:
     
  10. pjgtech

    pjgtech Better than a Poke in the . . . . . Ouch!

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    I have one of these, (as well as panorama, airmax, etc) bought it when I bought my Kral NP02, to be honest they are basic but they do the job, are reasonable quality and good value. Hawke have good after sales service, lifetime guarantee, etc. :)
     
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    I got this scope whe I got my first rifle (HW95K), it cost me £65 a couple of years ago.

    I didn't really know what I wanted from a scope, so I want to spend too much, yet didn't want a random bit of junk off Ebay.

    I'm only an occasional shooter, and this scope does a decent enough job. I've had to shim the front mount, so maybe the tolerances are out a bit on the mounts, but it's not really an issue. Image quality drops off a bit at x9, so I try and stick to x6. The AO adjustment is a bit stiff, and can be a bit inconsistent (regarding distance markers and focusing), so I try and leave that alone too.

    This scope is very decent for the money.
     
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    I've got two and I like them, they're my budget scope of choice.
     
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    Well it looks like I made a decent choice at least, hopefully it does just what I want it to! Thanks for the replies chaps!
     
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  14. Philip Canard

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    I own only American and Japanese manufactured scopes, except for a Hawke Nite-Eye 3-12X50 AO IR, which is Chinese made. The Hawke is the least costly, but also the lowest quality. Mind you, I am used to something like a Weaver Classic V or a Burris Signature Select on my centerfire rifles. The problem is that when you get into a premium scope like a Burris Signature Select, the defects of a Chinese scope will become plainly obvious.

    Some of my gripes with the Hawke scope: even in barely freezing weather, I can hardly turn the AO ring, and sometimes I may need to use a scope in subzero weather, where the AO ring would be locked frozen. It's that cheap snot grease that is in every Chinese scope or bino I ever used. Might not bother you if you never hunt below freezing temps.

    The power ring turns backwards from every American, German or Japanese scope out there. In a hurry, I often turn it the wrong way, and it costs time and has made me miss quick shots when hunting.

    The ocular bell is big and wide. However, the image is not across the full diameter of the ocular lens and it is like looking down a tunnel. Field of view is lost relative to a scope that uses the whole ocular lens. Could have used a smaller ocular bell for the same field of view and had more bolt handle clearance, which is critical on Mauser type bolt rifles, and allow a lower placement over the barrel.

    The Hawke weighs too much compared to a Leupold or even the cheaper Redfield scopes that Leupold sells to their low end customers. A Redfield can be had for a Hawke price, and I get lifetime USA factory support. No time limit on the warrranty.

    Chinese 50mm scopes and binos often use only something like 35mm of their aperture because the outer edges of the glass are basically too low quality and will seriously degrade image quality. My Burris 4.5-14X32mm Timberline AO scope is just as bright and sharper at 6X than the Hawke Nite-Eye is at 6X, plus much smaller and lighter and tougher. It's AO focuses down to 7 yards and the elevation and windage clicks are 1/8" at 100 yards, not the standard 1/4" clicks, so you can really get it zeroed exactly on target. A great scope for airguns and subsonic .22LR as it has a ballistic reticle as well, that is quite fine for small targets like birds. Has multi-coated optics that are equal to a Leupold VX-3 at twice the price. It is an outstanding value for about $330 and has been in the Burris lineup for many years. Has an excellent track record. Many are available used if cost is an issue. Much better than getting a Chinese scope. It is used on many centerfire mountain rifles that use a short action such as .308 Win. or 7mm-08 Rem., which are very lightweight and hard recoiling rifles. It will more than go the distance on airguns and rimfires. It is an outstanding choice for CZ 450 series rimfires, as the small ocular bell allows lower mounting than most while allowing enough bolt clearance. Mine sits on my CZ 452 American.

    Go to a gun shop that sells high end scopes like Leupold and Zeiss and look through a few. If you can get a cheaper scope that comes close to that, then go for it. The Japanese manufacturer OLW makes scopes for Bushnell Elite, Sightron, Vortex and Weaver and at a similar price point they are similar quality across those brands. They made my Weaver Classic V that sits on my CZ 527 Kevlar Varmint and it has a ballistic reticle for .223 Rem. Leupold service will put any reticle of theirs of your choice in most of their scopes, and they have a lifetime warranty that passes on to the next user if you decide to sell, so they have very high resale value.

    My Hawke Nite-Eye has an AO scale that is calibrated in feet instead of yards, so if I want 50 yards I have to select 150 on the AO ring. Aggravating, but I work around it.

    I DO like one thing about my Hawke scope, and that is why it has stayed on my Lonestar .25. The SR-6 ballistic reticle was designed by an Englishman for airgun and subsonic .22LR use and the tic marks are right on at multiples of 10 yards which makes it easy to pick the right tic mark on the reticle if I know the yardage.

    Maybe Hawke scopes are better than most Chinese scopes in their price class, and since it sits on a PCP that has very little recoil, it might last, but Chinese scopes are noted for soon failing under recoil if used on heavy recoiling centerfire rifles. For a beginner, the Chinese Hawke scopes may be OK, but I plan on staying with American and Japanese manufactured scopes on any future purchase. I understand that the top end Hawke scopes are Japanese manufactured, but have never handled one. Whatever scope you buy, make sure it has a good domestic service source with a reasonable turn around time.

    Another thing about the Hawke scope that I have seen on other Chinese scopes is that the stated 1/4" clicks at 100 yards is more like 3/8". If you are 2" off at 100 yards, then you should apply 8 clicks of correction. The actual number of clicks will be closer to 6 clicks. Not a big deal in a cheap scope, but would be totally unacceptable for a long range scope on a centerfire rifle. If you zero the scope and use a ballistic reticle for long range shooting, it might not bother you too much.

    good luck finding a suitable scope.

    Phil
     
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    Philip above - Very well written the mods should turn it into a Sticky.
    Peter.
     
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    Nice little rig you've assembled for £260...:thumb:

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