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Hatsan Striker 1000S zeroing joy .25cal

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by GMballistic, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. GMballistic

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    As of late I've gotten heavily into my vintage/antique BSA's and have actually spent a fair bit of time buying, shooting and generally enjoying them.
    Some of my threads here; http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums...uot-for-my-latest-airgun-purchase-vintage-BSA
    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/230344-BSA-Standard-No2-AKA-quot-Long-Tom-quot

    ...But, :D today I changed it up and spent some time with my more modern & arguably cheaper Hatsan Striker 1000S in .25cal.

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    I bought the gun back in January this year and had been generally just plinking with it using the great standard fibre optic open sights which come on the gun. For those that don't know it's a .25cal Turkish made air rifle putting out pellets at just below the legal limit.
    It cost me £113 odd if memory serves which I thought was a bargain for a brand new .25 cal rifle anyway but to get it with a wood stock was a real bonus.


    After testing the gun's power early in my ownership (after bedding in) using the 4 different pellet brands I had purchased it made for some interesting results imo.


    • BSA Pylarm ~ 18.6 gr ~ High: 11.8ft/lbs, low: 10.4ft/lbs ~ 31.9fps velocity spread
    • H&N FTT ~ 19.91 gr ~ High:11.3ft/lbs, low: 10.9ft/lbs ~ 9.4fps velocity spread
    • H&N Baracuda Hunter ~ 27.47gr ~ High:10.9ft/lbs, low:10.5ft/lbs ~ 8fps velocity spread
    • Bisley Pest Control ~ 26.24gr ~ High:10.8ft/lbs, low:10.5ft/lbs ~ 4.8fps velocity spread

    The above results were shot from a string of 5 shots with peak power being shown. The velocity spread was gauged from the difference between the highest velocity achieved and lowest velocity achieved over a string of 5 shots.


    A few weeks ago I decided to sell my 1990's Limited Edition Camo Webley Tracker in order to add some funds towards the antique BSA's that I was buying. The buyer bought the gun without the scope which I was happy to keep to put on the Hatsan so I fitted that today as seen in the pic at the top of the page.
    The scope is a Tasco 3-9x40EG illuminated reticule with Butler Creek flip up covers and a Butler Creek honeycomb ARD (Anti reflection or glare device) insert.

    Firstly from a kneeling supported position I shot a string of 5 shots in each type/brand of pellets at my targets which were 10 metres away. This gave me the below groupings.

    The H&N FTT, Bisley Pest Control and the BSA Pylarm all gave very good tight groups but for some reason the rifle really didn't like the H&N Baracuda Hunter pellets which were very spread out.
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    After that and following on from my power results I decided to make the H&N FTT the pellets I'd zero the gun with and generally use in it from now on.

    To zero the rifle I shot it at 10 metres from a kneeling supported position (using the low table pictured above as my rest) firing a string of 5 shots each time before adjusting my scope and replacing the target before the next string of 5 shots.
    As the scope was a fair bit off zero when adjusting the turrets at first I did it in large groups of "clicks" but then as it got closer to the centre line/bullseye I moved it in smaller groups.

    The rifle was shooting high left (as seen above) so I firstly adjusted the windage bringing the POI (point of impact) inwards from the left to the right.
    Once I had the pellets hitting more or less in the centre line I then dialed in the elevation bringing the POI downwards towards the centre bullseye. After around 50 pellets I was zeroed for certain as I achieved the below... :cool:

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    Very pleased with that especially as the .25cal makes for much larger holes, so pellet on pellet accuracy is great. FYI the centre of that bullseye is slightly smaller than a 5 pence piece.

    The targets I'm using are Bisley targets which I simply print off from my computer when needed and I find them great for shooting as the white centre bullseye makes it easy to see with open sights and the score point numbers help keep scopes level from tilting etc when zeroing or aiming in general.
    Available here FOC: https://www.mccloys.com/media/catal...b33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/i/bisley-card.jpg


    I know most people on here know about zeroing etc but I thought I'd write it out just briefly for anyone who wanted to know. Hope it's not bored you all. :up:


    Anyone want to hazard a guess of how many .25cal pellets it takes to make a tin can look like this...

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    :D
     
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    I have one of these as well and they are a fantastic gun for the money. The 1000s is actually the synthetic stock version of the striker. What you (and I) have is the wooden stock known as the 1000x. If you look on the Pellpax website these are now selling for £239 which is a bit steep I think.
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    I have a leapers 2-7x32 IR scope on mine, bought from JSR for £32 and it complements the rifle well. I did have to do some extensive pellet testing to find what mine likes. It favours H&N filed target (not FTT) which are a diabolo with a raised ridge on the dome. These fit the barrel well and will group like yours at 25 metres. Not bad for a cheapish gun and a large lump of lead projectile. I can hit cans in the dark at 50 metres with 4 mill dots of holdover.

    In answer to your "tin can" question, the answer is not many! :D
     
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    God shooting and any info will always adds to someone's knowledge pool :up:. That's a great price for .25 cal. I too find fibre optics sights very good, I have replacement fibre optic foresight on my gamo.

    Got to give basic uncomplicated springers a :up:.
     
  5. GMballistic

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    Any more pictures of your rifle shauny?

    You've made me think why didn't I remove the rear open sight when I fitted the scope now. :rolleyes: :lol: Job for the weekend now.


    That price is crazy money and thanks for the info, re: the name of the gun. Didn't know that. ;)

    I think even with the suggestions from you both I may stick to the H&N FTT pellets for now as they perform very well. Might try the others in the future though especially as I'm yet to see how the pellets perform at a longer range. Hoping to go to the AGF summer meet at Nomads in August so I'll take the Hatsan then.


    Question/s for the Hatsan owners;
    Have you removed your guns from the stocks to lube the spring/guide? Mine sounds a little dry if I'm honest which I was going to investigate this weekend.
    If so any recommended Lube which works well in the Hatsan?

    Thanks.
     
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    My 25 striker loved FTT, Bisley superfields and pylarms.
    It also shot the super heavy Res Superdome very well too.
     
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    more pics :) View attachment 162773 View attachment 162774 View attachment 162775 View attachment 162776
     
  8. GMballistic

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    Very nice shauny. :cool:

    How's the mod/suppressor held on?

    The stock looks darker than mine, ...did you re-do the finish on it or is that how it came?

    Also any info re; the spring lube?

    Sorry for all the questions. :redface:
     
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    the mod is a slip on with a very good friction fit,but used a drop of loctite as well.it it only extended the barrel by about 4 inches,but worked very well.i ended up shortening the orig spring,as it went a bit ...er high. just gave the piston a polish,and a re lube with some of my moly mix lube,also made a new
    guide/tophat. very smooth to shoot with no twang. fyi, marksman usually give the highest ft lb.
     
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    Thanks for the info shauny. :up:

    I love the size of the holes the .25 makes in the things it hits. :D Such a child at heart still.
     
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    yeah. ooh forgot,the stock came like that. :)
     
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    A bit steep! you're not kidding you can buy the Hatsan Mod 55s(.25cal) for a lot less than that and that's got the superior quattro trigger.
     
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    I'm going to have to get one of these .25 hatsans one day, shop near me sells the breaker 900x but it's only advertised in 177/22, is it only the 1000x that's available in .25?
     
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    Hatsan do a few 25. I also most got one of them. Kinda gutted I didn't. I must admit I had a cheeky too at them lady night....may be i could....get another....
     
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    The Hatsan Mod 55s is available in .25 as well as .177 and its got the Quattro trigger which is much better.
     
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    Striker 1000X can be had for about £125 plus postage from Poland. Clicky
    Quite a few of the Hatsans come in .25
     
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    One of the local dealers in my area but not the one i use does the Striker 1000X(wood stock) for £145 and they're not known for cheap prices so importing from Poland when you take carriage into consideration would be about the same price.
     
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    Put a bit more water with it buddy .
     
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    hmm, predictive text...and tiredness with a whole of stupid thrown in too....
     
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    I bought mine because I had always wanted to try the .25cal and for the price of these rifles I thought why not. ;)

    I'm so glad I did as I love the larger calibre for plinking purely because of the damage it causes and the Hatsan is a bargain for the money imho. As Patrick mentions though the Mod 55 has a better "Quattro" trigger unit (apparently ~ not shot it myself) but I can work with the trigger the Striker has just fine.

    I find on my Striker 1000 when cocked (with the safety removed) there is a "dead zone" which I can very slowly pull the trigger backwards through until I meet a stopping point/resistance, ...then I just take aim and squeeze through the last part firing the gun. It's actually really nice to shoot like that.



    @Evilchild ~ If you did decide to get a second rifle a change of calibre is always a good decision imo.
    Such a shame not to try the other larger or smaller calibre's airguns have to offer.
     

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