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Hatsan 60s

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by john2667, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. john2667

    john2667 Engaging Member

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    Carbined my 60s last night after fitting a welsh willy tuning kit and what a result, took it to the range today and was hitting a knock down target at 45yrds consistently and the recoil and firing cycle is much improved with the tuning kit and now its carbined it feels much better balanced, very pleased with it
     
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    How did you carbine it? Does it effect cocking,making it any harder?
     
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    i chopped 4 inches off the barrel and i used 2 small jubilee clips with a gap just wide enough to fit the saw blade between so the cut is straight and it isnt any harder to cock mate
     
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    I did much the same when I had mine - a bit of fettling, a Welsh Willy kit, and then I shortened the barrel and recrowned it.

    Next to one of my HW80's:

    [​IMG]

    and:

    [​IMG]

    A silencer added a little length back onto the gun but still kept it reasonable.

    I like it when a plan comes together...

    :)
     
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    What lenght is your 60s barrel mate? mine is 13" from the breach
     
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    Love your 80, had one of them back in the 80s lol
     
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    About this big:

    [​IMG]

    :D

    I have to say though that my 60S was a pig when I first got it and it took a lot of jiggery pokery to get it shooting nicely.

    By the time I was done it was slicker than deer guts on a doorknob, but it took a lot of work to 'make it so'.
     
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    How did you both recrown your barrels?
     
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    A retired gunsmith lives around the corner from me - he recrowned mine on his lathe :)

    I've chopped barrels before and had good results with a clean cut and no crown, and I also had good results using the tapered end of a round ceramic rod from a Spyderco sharpening set. I tried the polishing compound on a brass screw head method and that seemed to work as well.
     
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    i just used a dremel with a suitable attachment, worked a treat, just make sure you push a pellet down the end of the barrel to stop crap from going down to the port
     
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    I've just sold my Mod 60s (yesterday in fact), it had been carbined, but nowhere near as short as the ones pictured in this thread.
    In my experience the Mod 60s is an excellent gun for the money, but vastly underated in some circles...maybe because of its country of origin!
    But then thats just my opinion. :)
     
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    They're about the best value gun on the market IMHO in terms of features in relation to price.

    Easy to work on, easy to tune, and probably the cheapest path to FAC spring rifle there is.
     
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    Hatsan do make good guns after all they do make webleys
     
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    John do you ever shoot down woodend?
     
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    Have you noticed if the power has dropped a bit?

    I find after shortening the barrel the power needs bumping up about 1fpe.
     
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    More interesting; how far did it set you back after all the tuning and modding? I think my 60s could use some TLC too.
     
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    That can happen, but often there is little noticeable change in velocity. The effects of barrel shortening are more prominent in firearms. There used to be an old rule of thumb that you'd lose X for every inch removed from the barrel - I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head but they were established a long time ago using high velocity rifle rounds. It's in one of my old rifle books somewhere - I'll see if I can hunt it out...

    Welsh Willy kits are around £58 plus delivery.

    Barrel shortening is fee if you decide to chance tackling it yourself or whatever a local engineering firm wants to charge you. I used to get a local engineer to cut my barrels, crown them to the angle I specified and thread them to receive a standard screw on moderator. Depending on how busy he was he'd charge between £15 and £30 a time.
     

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