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Has Anybody Bought An Ffp Scope And Regretted The Purchase, Or Been Disappointed?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Carlparrot, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Carlparrot

    Carlparrot Member

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    I'm seriously considering buying a new FFP scope (first focal plane) but wanted to ask if antibody who has bought one regretted the buy and thought in hindsight they should have spent more money on a normal scope SFP scope instead?

    Thanks all
     
  2. Chouchin66

    Chouchin66 Big Poster

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    It all depends on your expectations, I like a FFP for hunting, as your holdovers don't change with magnification... Crosshairs may get a little thick for target... No way to know till ya try it.

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  3. metalman

    metalman Big Poster

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    Best to try before you buy if possible. I bought a Discovery ffp and also the larger Optison ffp and just could not get on with them. Lower magnification it was a struggle to see ret
     
  4. Herbie87

    Herbie87 Keyboard Hero

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    I think it depends on your application. If you are looking to use the reticle aim points across the magnification range you will be disappointed because at low magnification they are too small.
     
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    As above , try before you buy. I use one totally love it. I have a LightStream 4.5-14×44. Sadly no longer made. That said if your going to be shooting day / night then you may consider 3-14 ATN 4k pro. That I think has a FFP retical option too. Then your set for everything. :thumb:
     
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    The short answer for me is no.

    Minnie have three, could probably get away with having two :D. Like them a lot, Altho as said anything under about 7 mag and the ret is too small (for me anyway)

    Again, already said but try before you buy is the best route.
     
  7. Carlparrot

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    I'll be using it for hunting, almost solely for that. I tend to shoot at around X6 or X7 magnification.
    If it doesn't have a side focus and illuminated reticle I wouldn't be buying it as I use both quite often so really it's a £200 scope and don't fancy spending that much if the reticle is difficult to see...does anyone have experience of hunting squirrels etc at X6ish with one please?

    Thanks for your replies folks
     
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    Herbie87 Keyboard Hero

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    If you don't tend to adjust the magnification much I wouldn't bother with FFP. I've found it helpful if using add-on nightvision, where I'll scan at 3/4x for a better FOV and then I might zoom to 9/10x to take a shot. Much easier to do if I'm only remembering one set of holdovers.
     
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  9. rgc_swanseaARC

    rgc_swanseaARC He's not the Stig...He's the Stigs Welsh cousin

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    Have a look at the nikko stirling diamond ffp, I have one and its brilliant... Literally only just removed it to play with the new pard nv008 lrf.
     
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  10. Jukebox

    Jukebox Better to burn out...than to fade away.

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    Not regret so much as cant see the point in the one I have, a VT3 x12.
    You need a decent mag on your scope for them to be of any benefit in my opinion and the Sidewinder FFP's are great bits of kit.
    I've just come into ownership of a Cobra F1 ffp scope that I also need to try out soon as it's been sat in its box for a month :oops:
     
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    Simonix Engaging Member

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    I love my FFP.

    can change my magnification depending on where I’m shooting, but the holdovers never change!
     
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    I use mine on 6x totally awesome. If I'm doing zero checking, I use x14. Other than that , x6 :thumb:
    Have the courage, look though one, then leave the shop, go back if you want it.
    If it suits, and you buy on the spot, that's nothing, to do with me.
     
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    hamza breaking strain of a kit kat

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    I had two at one point and sold them both. I didn’t like the reticle at the ends of the mag range as it was either unusable or too thick.

    I also don’t hunt or shoot in situations where I have only one shot and can adjust the scope so need to worry about changing hold overs.

    Big question is, what are you using it for?
     
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    I did, 10+ years ago. A lightstream... Not for me
     
  15. The Robin

    The Robin Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Try look through one before committing to one. Under x7 mag the ret is far too small for me but I have two Falcon ffp scopes and I love them for my needs but there a lump of a scope though ;)
     
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    Low mag such as 6x you will really struggle they are great at 10x upwards. I use two falcons which go to 18 x and 25x they are useful at long range with an air rifle on a stable support. I would expect them to be very useful on a rim fire etc.
     
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    I love mine, yes on low mag my aging eyes struggle to see the Ret against a black background like a crow or jackdaw. Up the mag a bit or get a iluminated Ret and no problems.
    Love being able to adjust the mag and not have to worry about Mildots not working out.
    Edit to add, depending on the reticle some have a dot in centre others a small opening in middle of crosshairs to see a fine target.
     
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    I have 1 ffp and 5 sfp scopes...



    I wish I just had 6sfp scopes

    Bb
     
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  19. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    I thought these FFP scopes were the in thing these days? Does anyone have an opinion on a Hawke Sidewinder 30 FFP 4-16x50 IR scope? I have been offered one.

    hawke-sidewinder-ffp-4-16x50-rifle-scope-1_1.jpg
     
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  20. TrickyDicky

    TrickyDicky Life in the slow lane

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    I believe that the same as the one i just purchased off a friend...very nice scope IMO.
     
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