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Hades Vs Heavy (.177)

Discussion in 'Technical' started by welshname, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. welshname

    welshname Engaging Member

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    Afternoon,

    Anyone that's read my thread will know that I've found that from a consistent velocity point of view only (haven't tested group sizes yet) my rifle (HW110) shoots best with what I've tested so far with the Hades. Naturally I thought this would carry through to the Heavies too however, 2 different batches of heavies, 2 similar results. I've put the table below.

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    Has anyone else experienced this? I've seen it the other way round in terms of grouping worse with Hades, but this makes me believe there is much more to the differences between the two than than the just the "frangible" head.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Every pellet batch is different, and I've found differences even between the same batch. Just because one pellet shoots well doesnt mean another thats virtually the same will be as good.
    Hades and heavies are completely different moulds, so will not be the same. Its a case of finding a pellet that works, and sticking with it. My worst case was when H&N went from blue tins to brown tins- same pellets, completely different characteristics for me.
     
  3. Autodidact

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    Same weight and will fly in similar ways was my conclusion about Hades and Heavys, obviously every gun and opinion is different but they work well for me :up:

    Be well fella :thumb:
     
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    I did try them both- the heavies were good in my 77k, the hades were only good for shotgun practice!
     
  5. Autodidact

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    This is how they fly for me ...(3 each at outers and 4 at bullseye) ...

    IMG_20200730_194420_8.jpg

    And the rifles not tuned yet ;)

    Be well fella :thumb:
     
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    Looks to me like your barrel really likes those hades.
    Worth getting another tin of the same batch to double check if they group, won't matter how consistent they are if they don't group.
     
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    I've got another 4 tins from the same batch shot half a tin (a different one) this afternoon and they group the same as the previous tin, so no worries there ...

    The barrel is a custom carbon fibre one from @Jeffsky at the Bromley chop shop and it seems to like all the different pellets I've tried so far

    IMG_20200731_180818_6.jpg

    If your looking for a really good barrel I'd recommend talking to him :thumb:
     
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    Lonelyfox Newbie

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    Only use Heavy.
     
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    I tried the .177 Hades in my DTC and beyond 30 yds they turned into shotgun pellets, whereas the Heavies were accurate out to 70 yds, tried the Hades in an Impact and they were just as accurate as the heavies out to 70 yds, so whatever is going on with my DTC, it does not like these HADES, Heavies all day long though, so far had the same with all other pellets, accurate to 30 yds, then start to shotgun.
     

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