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Question gun reviews

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by bjameson, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. bjameson

    bjameson Newbie

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    Hi all im new to the forum. Im after a pcp and got around £550 to spend on one. Was just after any info on whats a good gun. Someone has offered me a bsa super10 whats your views? Many thanx :up:
     
  2. DUNKS

    DUNKS Big Poster

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    I personally do not rate current BSA guns.
    I would always recommend you get yourself off to a club and try as many guns as you can before you part with your hard won cash.
    If this is not possible then do the same with your local gunshop. A gun has to suit you.
     
  3. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Dunks, BSA Super 10s are not current BSA guns.

    To the OP, how much, what model, what comes with it?

    I have a BSA Super 10, probably the last new bull barrel carbine that was sold new in .177 in the UK. It is a gun I love, accurate, reliable, superb in operation. It seems to suffer with less problems that the much inferior replacement, the R10!

    The Super 10 comes in 3 marks, each roughly equivalent to Rapids produced at the same time in stock design, the first mark was heavily scalloped and a right swine to fit a bipod on. The second mark was a straight underside and much easier, the last mark had a stock very similar to the first model R10!

    Pellets, most seem to favour Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums, mine particularly likes Defiant Ogive in 4.52mm!

    Any upgrades? Take it to John Bowkett, makes a Super gun a really Super gun!
     
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    bjameson Newbie

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    Thanx for the info. Dont know about model comes with scope bag and dive bottle. Are they a heavy gun?
     
  5. stevemandm

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    the super10 has a big and loyal following mate. rifles are a personal thing - what looks great may not 'hold' great, what suits me may not suit you.
    i would advise shouldering as many as you can, to see what you think - this should narrow the choice down ...... unless the super10 feels great when you pick it up
     
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    Welcome to the Forum BJameson :D Not familiar with the super10 as you know but the guys here on the forum won't see you wrong when it comes to advice. :up:
     
  7. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Quick crash course on Super 10 mark identification!

    The Mark One!
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    Note the scalloped stock shape!

    The Mark Two
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    Note the flat underneath of the stock!

    The Mark Three (The Most Beautiful One Of All)
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  8. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Just to confuse things further any model BSA Super 10 can fit in any BSA Super 10 stock!

    Mine currently lives in this....
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  9. critter

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    You would be better buying a second hand AA S410 classic, should give around 80 shots in .177 and leave enough for a decent scope and charging equipment. Go and shoulder one at yor local rfd.
     
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    The mk 3 is a lovely looking gun, but yes, the Supertens are heavy
     
  11. essex sniper

    essex sniper Banned

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    Super10s are a very good rifle .but they are abit on the heavy side
     
  12. cloverleaf

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    The S10 has a loyal following, of which I'm not a part :p

    They'll do the job if you get a decent one; however they're not particularly well put together (fit, finish and materials), are a pig to work on and are prone to reliability issues (particularly concerning the mags and regulator).

    I'd strongly adivse not to part with any cash for one before giving it a good grilling over the chrony. They're all getting on a bit now and if the reg's had no attention during the gun's life it's extremely likely that the seals will be goosed and the reg will need a rebuild - budget around £100-200 for this; depending on who carries it out. Also check that the mag functions correctly; they're very good at skipping certain chambers once they become worn.

    IMO there are much better guns to be had for the money; namely the Air Arms 400 series ;)
     
  13. SimonD

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    FX airguns are nice... they have a good range, I have the T12 , a nice lightweight gun, deadly accurate, and I have the independence, it's big, it's heavy, has a built in pump to pump air into the tank.. It's deadly accurate, no problems hitting the target at 100m .. Oh.. And very tuneable , especially when bought in Sweden with no anti tamper.. :D
     
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    There's an rws excalibre in the sales just now on here, I have the webley fx 2000 same gun! And I rate that over all other air rifles I have owned (22) and used Many more, s200 are another superb gun, ripley hogan elite is another, but it really is personal. As I don't particularly like any of the current bsa's and neither do I like the theoben mfr!
     
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  15. secretagentmole

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    Round hairy spherical objects you nasty person you!

    I have never had a problem with any Super 10 magazine, I even bought one that did not work properly, serviced it, set the tension following a youtube guide and it worked perfectly. It is one of the more reliable magazines out there and was copied by blooming Daystate!

    The seals. The one that tends to give the most problems is on the buddy bottle and is a piece of piddle to change. Regulators are very reliable, a damned site more reliable than the R10s. If it needs a rebuild for the sort of money you are quoting you can have it rebuilt by Bowkett and blueprinted too! He only charges £120 + VAT for a blueprint and then it comes back much much better than before.

    I have never had an internal seal fail on any Super 10 I have owned.

    Personally I have never had anything but problems with any Air Arms I have owned, the PCPs are particularly prone to being underpowered, magazine problems (both the AA and CZ versions) and they leak like sieves as well! They dump the air if the pressure gets too low, then they are a swine to top back up! :p:p:p:p
     
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    Go for an air arms **! All I have ever owned is air arms and wouldn't change for anything else. For that money you could get yourself a very decent second hand S410 and they are lovely looking, great accuracy and rather light too! All gravy!
     
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    Ive got a S10 MK 3. Bought second hand in August and it is as it was built. I use it at least once a week, putting at least 300 pellets in one session. I've had no problems with, it handles beautifully, very accurate and get around 100 shots per fill. I love my S10 compared to my husbands JB R10 but this is my opinion and what I prefer. As what has been said before you need to "try before you buy". What suits one does not suit another. But don't let the horror stories put you off if you find you like the S10. If you researched hard enough you would find horror stories on just about any rifle.
    Good luck with what you decide to go with.
     
  18. Grumpyoldman

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    Well if i had that money to spend on a rifle id watch for trusted sellers on here with good sales feed back , you can as our american cousins say , get a lot off bang for your buck :up: Just follow the standard rules off buying on line
     

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