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Gun cleaning, .17hmr and .22lr?

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by mattgriff88, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. mattgriff88

    mattgriff88 Busy Member

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    Hi, i want to buy a cleaning kit for .17hmr and .22lr.

    i have been warned off bore snakes as they can snap in the barrel so want to buy a decent rod instead.

    what exactley do i need?

    Cleaning rod
    Bore guide
    Jag
    cleaning patches
    cleaning solvent

    is that all i need?

    is the jag for holding the patches on the cleaning rod?

    what would you recommend?

    cheers
     
  2. jantar

    jantar Donator

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    Beware of old wives tales that stem from the days of poor bore and pellet quality! In reality I have shot loads of pellets and never yet had cause to 'clean' the bores on any of my rifles. Once I did and regretted it because the accuracy went haywire and it took almost half a dozen tins of them to the rifle to retutn to the accuracy it had previou to the so called 'bor cleaning'.
    Provided that you occasioanlly use a pellet lube with a tin of pellets by simply putting a few drops in the tin and giving it a gentle shake that should be all you need to do. Most pellets are now not lead and even if they are the deposits will only be scraped off by subsequent pellets anyway. It will never build up to such an extent that it will 'foul' the bore and cause inaccuracy.
    The only reason I can think of to have to use a jag would be if the bore was rusty. If that is so then perhaps better care is required and not bore cleaning.
    Think about it.....it took me a while to understand the reasoning but I am now glad I eventually did.
     
  3. Kyska

    Kyska Honorary Member

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    Yes, the jag holds the cleaning gauze, I think the above poster is confused.

    Many, many people don't clean .22lr as you won't get a copper build up. HMR, I only clean it when the groups start opening up, so make sure you have copper remover as well as bore cleaner.
     
  4. Shropshire Shooter

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    The OP is talking about rimfire rifles, not airguns, so there's the added factor of powder and primer residue, both of which can be corrosive to steel. I agree with what you're saying when it comes to air rifles, except that most pellets are still mainly made from lead alloy.
     
  5. Jackroadkill

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    This - I couldn't get my .17hmr to group when I first had it, despite cleaning it after every outing. It drove me mad, almost to the point where I was considering selling the rifle. Then I was told not to clean the bore after use, and just to do it when the group got too open. I gave it a try and within twenty rounds the groups were tight, and what's more, tight they stayed.
     
  6. sneakysniper

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    I don't clean my 22 at all, as for the HMR i usually give it a quick pullthrough with a boresnake if i don't plan going out with it again anytime soon. Never had any problems so far.
     
  7. sqwiffy

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    I use a pull through after every day out.
    Just a length of parachute cord, a loop tied at one end and a strip of old sweat shirt 1/2" x 3" folded through the loop once.
    Feed it, Drag it through three times. Usually with just a spot of 3 in 1 as it is a good metal cleaner.

    Throw the bit of rag.

    Never had any accuracy issues with the winmag, The air rifle gets the treatment when the groups enlarge, or if I feel it necessary......... 200 ish pellets.

    Try and be gentle!
     
  8. jonesy185

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    Cleaning the bore will not loose it's zero . I clean do a quick bore clean after each outing
     
  9. coney

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    My 17 was spot on for six months, thought I'd better give it a clean, put the boresnake through it...couldn't hit a barn door with it, haven't cleaned the bore in six years 5shot groups in an inch@100 yds!
     
  10. tisme

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    I've cleaned my 17hmr lots but I've only cleaned it once for copper. Removing the carbon helps mine but if I remove the copper it takes 20-30 shots to get it grouping well.
    My 22LR I carbon clean once a year around 1000 shots
     
  11. john frum

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    I clean a .22 only when the action gets a bit jamming, somtimes with a snake and sometimes with a rod.

    .357 gets a snake used before shooting a bit more often as there is more muck thrown out of the larger cal. cartridges.

    What would you rather have stuck/jammed up a barrel a boresnake or a rod ? i've had more rod problems...
     
  12. steve54

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    Hmmm... Some conflicting advice there ????
    To clean or not to clean. :confused:
     
  13. JLB

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    My .22lr gets a pull through after every outing with a dry bore snake intended for airguns (no brass brush) & a proper clean with solvents etc once a year. The HMR similar but with the VFG cleaning felts as it's a b****r to get the bore snake weight down the barrel when it's dirty.


    John:)
     

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