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Greetings

Discussion in 'Introduce yourself' started by Evil Spud, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Evil Spud

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    Hi everyone, I'm returning to airgunning after quite a break away.

    As a kid I used to shoot my dads old springer ( think it was a Relum or similar ) in the back garden and with scouts we used to occasionally go shooting at a nearby club. That was many moons ago...

    Now I'm looking to return to shooting air guns. Having done a lot of reading then visiting a few trips to local shops, I've narrowed my choices to two different rifles, both carbines iirc:

    1: HW100 thumb hole, found the standard rifle to be weighted wrong hence the thumb hole choice, but seems well respected and well made as a rifle. Seems to be the complete package in the box (extra mag and silencer already in there).

    2: S410 supalite, again the balance seems right, like the bolt action over the side lever but it seems less of a complete package than the weihrauch, (no extra mag or silencer included to make it comparable)

    Having done my sums, by the time I added a silencer (again reading up weihrauch seems like the silencer I'll be getting), a silencer adaptor and extra mag, to the S410 as a package, the weihrauch is only £60 more (give or take)...

    Won't be buying till mid-late April after I get back from working away. So it'll give me time to think things through.

    In the meantime I've been buying a few bits to go with whatever rifle I get: Hawke 3-9x50 sport hd ir scope (eBay bargain) that came with a set of high 2piece mounts, an ex demo hard gun case, a 3l dive cylinder and a tin of rws hobby pellets (I know they aren't the best, but they were cheap and I figured 500 of those to run in the rifle should be a good starting point before I tackle anything serious with the rifle).

    I have found the forum to be indispensable when researching various aspects of air gun use, so I thought I'd best join up.

    One question about the S410, a few threads crop up on the subject of rust on the cylinder, but they tend to be older threads.

    Is this something Air Arms have sorted out, or is it still a problem?

    If rust is a problem on the s410, what's the best way to deal with it / what can be done to prevent it?
     
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    Welcome to the forum matey, sounds like you've been busy. Tbh you won't go far wrong with either rifle choice. My preference would be the hw100 out of the two bud each to their own. It should be down to how it feels when shouldered. Have you considered an R10? A lot of rifle for the money giving more shots per fill and if you buy the VC version very quiet too
     
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    Btw to stop rust you should wipe you rifle over the metal parts with an oily rag after every outing. Use gun oil to do this
     
  4. Evil Spud

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    Thanks, any brand of gun oil better or does it have to be special oil?

    I did look at a couple of BSA rifles (as well as a couple of other makes like FX, and Brocock all probably very fine rifles, just didn't feel right), alas I felt the r10's safety catch was in an awkward position to me at least, but I liked the buddy bottle idea.

    The layout and ergonomics of both the HW100 and S4x0 families of rifles just seemed much more natural. I have to use an SA80 at work, so I'm familiar with using rifles that have an awkward layout, wanted something that feels right from the start.

    In all probability, I'll be getting the 410, I just prefer bolt actions over side levers.
     
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    hi mate, welcome from west yorkshire. you've picked 2 of the 3 best guns available for the money - the 3rd being the new bsa r10 ( in my opinion ). we have 3 aa s400's and they are brilliant, but not taking anything away from the hw100, i would buy the r10, if we were to add to the collection.
    for a single shot, the aa s400's are the best, but for a multi shot, there are comparable guns available ( they definitely wont beat the s400 on accuracy, but are comparable as a package, as you have noticed ).
    i have shot both the hw100 and the r10, and the r10 shoulders better, feels lighter and better balanced, and has a much higher shot count ..... and comes in the tactical look http://www.bsaguns.co.uk/airgun_r-10-MK2.php
    my advice, is to go down to your local rfd and try them all out for size and feel again ( include the r10 this time ), and dont rush into buying.
    as for protecting the gun, look after it from the start and you will never have an issue with rusting. i recommend ballistol oil - good for the protection of all the guns metalwork and wooden stock http://www.ballistoluk.co.uk/
     
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    What oil do you use at work for looking after an SA80? You would be able able to use the same stuff
     
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    Welcome along...nice intro
     
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    Welcome aboard!
     
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    Hi mate and welcome to the forum
     
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    Not sure what the oil is, comes in a big green tin that invariably ends up making an oil slick over the floor once everyone's taken some for themselves. I know it's been formulated with detergents that supposedly break down carbon deposits, but not as effectively as a can of coke. I presume being MOD supplied it will be the cheapest stuff they can find that matches the oil spec they request.

    I know what you were saying about the R10 it looked like a lovely piece of kit, but like I say I found the safety catch to be on the wrong side for having my right hand on the trigger (my preferred position). Both the s410 and hw100 could be cocked, fired and safety set from the right hand. It's just more natural for me to do it this way (and yes I appreciate that it's probably something I'm being picky over, but it's just my preference).

    I also know what you meant about the balance on the hw100, it was too butt heavy for my liking, which is why I'd have to buy the thumb hole variant, as it just evens things up nicely by removing that small bit of wood from the stock.

    Thanks for the tip on the oil I'll look out for some ballistol.
     
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    hi and welcome to the forum:up:
     
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    Now then - warm welcomes!
     
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    Strange user name, and welcome to the forum :up:


    John
     
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    Hello mate welcome
     
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    Hello and welcome :)
     
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    Welcome aboard mate. Both lovely rifles, i have shot both and couldn't really choose between them for accuracy. I ended up with a thumb hole regulated S410 because it came up on here for a bargain price. I got a superlite stock for it too but haven't tried it out yet.... I hope you know which calibre you want :).... Please,please, please don't start a thread on here if you don't.... Lol... All the best :) :)
     

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