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Graphic card (s) ?

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by Jelly, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. audi swift

    audi swift Man up & pull the bloody trigger.... HFT 101.

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    GPU's will be cheaper soon I hope as they are getting dear for what they are these days. & if the so called 'cryptocurrency miners' stop buying them to try & make money the prices will drop !
     
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    Yeah, don't hold your breath :D
     
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    Jelly - as said last years top end card will be good enough, Akita and I are both running five year old cards and provided the rest of the hardware is good it should last him. Sadly I know nothing about NVIDIA or the preferred manufacturers except NEVER to go for a "reference" card (stock cooling is terrible).

    Oooh look at you fancy pants, a 7870! Still rocking my Sapphire 7850OC and like you getting good enough mileage out of it. Good to hear AMD are pulling their finger out, I really want a new card (and if I'm honest a whole new rig as my QX6850 is now ten years old!) and I would like to stick with Sapphire as they have been good as long as I've ever used them.

    For anyone who thinks this is only about bitmining you're very wrong, GPU's are used for a lot of applications
    https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/product/radeon-vega-frontier-edition/
     
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    Gaming seems to have stagnated a bit of late, much like most of computer software. I've only changed card because my HD7750 was playing up a bit, yet it still happily runs the likes of far cry 4, battlefield 1, etc. I used to spend significant money watercooling and overclocking computers, because it actually made a big difference. That became redundant many many years ago, there simply isn't a need any more other than for benchmarking, if that's your thing.
     
  5. OliverQueen

    OliverQueen For 5 years, I was stuck on a remote island.....

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    Why not get him a couple more of the existing cards & Crossfire them (if you can still do this as been a while since I grew out of playing video games & use the PC for better things!)? Why spend so much to play games in the house when he could do Airsoft for a lot less (if into shooting type games) or a car (if he likes driving games)!
     
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    you can still crossfire cards but if I remember right it only boost the memory speed? never personally done it. depending what he wants ill be totally honest a £250-300 card is far than enough, unless he's going to be using 4k and VR etc
     
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    Sounds about right. I have an Nvidia GTX 980 8gb in my laptop, overkill by last year's standards probably, but I won't be buying a new laptop for several years.
     
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    Aye, the fact I'm still playing new games on a 10 year old potato says a lot for how development has stagnated. But, and this is a big but, a modern machine will be miles more efficient and will makes things look so much prettier.
     
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    Thanks for your help on this still not sure which way to go but as some of you probably know getting sense out of 17 year old's isn't easy or probably not even possible :Dwill let you know the outcome.
     
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    I did a lot of research on this before I upgraded last year. It depends on the resolution he will be running on his monitor and the frame rates he can achieve. Ideally for gaming you would need in excess of 60fps or ideally 80-90fps. If he's running at 1080P (1920x1080) then an Nvidia GTX1060 will be a big improvement. 1440p (2560x1440) a 1070 will run all games on ultra setting at around 80-90fps. 4K (3840x2160) would need a GTX1080 but would only get to about 45fps will everything on high. You really need 2 cards for a decent gaming experience at 4K.



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    Thanks again I am thinking two cards could be the way to go but two 1060/1070 might be okay but two 1080 ti won't be happening. I am confused which would be best two 1060/1070 or one 1080 at the moment he thinks he only wants 1080 at medium settings minimum 50fps so not a big ask but would like one that I don't need to change next year or could add another to later ?
     
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    Better to get one 1080 rather than two 1070's. Don't go for two 1060's they would be pretty much the same as one 1070 if you got the factory overclocked version. Also running two cards has its own problems as some games don't support SLI there's also more heat generated and more power required and they can be buggy. For info I'm running a GTX1070 at 1440P on a 120hz monitor and it runs every game at ultra settings at 80-90fps. At 1080 would probably increase my fps to 110, but it's just fine as it is so I couldn't justify the extra for a 1080.


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    My personal experience has always been that multiple cards are a waste of money.
     
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    audi swift Man up & pull the bloody trigger.... HFT 101.

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    You can not link 2x1060 together in SLI ( Scalable Link Interface ) sorry to say. Here is some more info from a web site:
    "The GTX 1060s do not have SLI fingers and can only communicate via the PCIe bus, without a bridge, thereby demanding that applications support MDA (Multi-Display Adapter) or LDA Explicit (Linked Display Adapter) to actually leverage both cards. NVidia does not officially support dual GTX 1060s. We also do not recommend purchasing two GTX 1060s for use in a single gaming system."


    Hence a 1080 ti is a must for 4k but a 1070 will cope with 4k ok everything will not be on max but man the game would still look good.

    I use my 1060 on a 24" monitor what's a few years old now, 99.9% of all modern eye candy games run high to ultra setting with a good 45 to whatever frame rates. Even my 1050 ti runs games good too on my work \ spare rig.
     
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    Thanks guys the decision has to be made by the weekend :eek: I thought one of my sons monitors (he has three) was 2K but told it's not, so I think the choice is between a AMD Radeon RX580 8GB that would do everything he wants in the short term or try and future proof for a while and put the boat out and get him this EVGA GeForce GTX Ti 1080 11GB which I think will run all three monitors and run 4K and VR if he goes down either of those routes.Big difference in price just don't want go down the cheaper route if I have to change it next year and it is a big birthday. Any advice. I'm thinking he would be blown away with the 1080:confused:
     
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    Hadn't seen the part about it being his 18th for some reason. Makes it a tricky one for me as it is indeed a significant birthday. As great as an expensive graphics card would be, it'll be in the bin in a few years so to speak. Have you thought about a cheaper one, and something hell be able to keep and cherish for a lifetime? (e.g a watch, or rifle etc).
     
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    If you're running 3 x 1080p monitors for gaming you'll need the 1080 for decent frame rates and quality. If he's looking to go 4K in the future, you won't run 3 x 4K monitors for gaming with a single card even if it's a 1080. One 1080 will only run one 4K monitor at about 60fps with high to ultra quality so you'd need 3 x 1080's to run 3 x 4k monitors.

    To be honest, graphics cards struggle with 4k at the moment, I reckon it will be a couple of years before they move on enough to make it a viable option.

    All computer parts go out of date quickly, sometimes in weeks, so you'll never be completely future proof. I'd get a 1080 and cross the 4K bridge if it ever gets to the other side of the river!


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    Thanks for the help went with the EVGA GeForce 1080 ti sc black edition in the end hope he is happy will find out Thursday.I see what you mean about a longer lasting present but this is what he wants I bought him a gun and a motorbike he don't use so buying him presents for me doesn't work:D Will keep receipt and make sure he is happy with it Before he opens it.
     
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