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Good starter rifles? SMK B2/B4

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Pinki Pete, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. Pinki Pete

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    Hey guys, I have been looking at buying a rifle from local shops and there seems to be quite a good deal for the SMK B2 and the SMK B4. What I was wondering is if anyone had had any experience with these rifles or had any advice regarding the rifles or the makers in general?

    For reference here is the website: http://www.pownalls.com/products/Air_Guns_Accessories/Air_Rifles/-_Budget_Air_Rifle_Kits/

    Thanks in advance, always had good help here :)
     
  2. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    They are not very well made and its debatable whether they're good value for money. My local dealer sells them for £32! I think that's about £30 too much!!:D

    Opinion is divided as to whether they're a good starter gun as well. I reckon if someone tries one of these they're likely to get fed up of not being able to hit anything and will possibly give up on the hobby thinking all airguns are this bad.
    Others think it'll give you a cheap way to find out if you like the sport before upgrading the following week.....

    Fwiw I'd suggest saving a little extra and getting a Hatsan 55 or 60 which is leagues ahead of the B2 in every way!:)
     
  3. Adam_h

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    A good cheap SMK @ Pownalls I found is the SMK Synxs, the wife has one and it's fairly accurate and nice and easy to use/ hold, and ambi stock too.
     
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    Well I am no expert you understand, but I think you may well be very disappointed with either the B2 or the B4. I have heard very good reports from a couple of folk on here about the XS19 which is on Page two of your link, more money, but I think you might well find a lot more bang for your buck. :) I believe there are some nice tuning kits for the XS19 should you want to upgrade it later on, that is not to increase power, but to make the rifle smoother and quieter to shoot.
     
  5. Pinki Pete

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    Well I do want to start as have plenty of prior experience and I tend to prefer to spend a little more initially so I don't need to upgrade too soon.

    Fairly accurate as in with a bit of skill you can hit what your aiming at or with a bit of luck youl hit what your aiming at if not then something close? Do you have much experience dealing with Pownalls then? Would you recommend them as dealers or are there any other locals I could/should try?
     
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    You know I never noticed there was a second page! (im an idiot). So what makes the XS19 a better rifle then? (just trying to learn more and understand more about rifles).
     
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    The wife can hit a bull shot at 20 meters with her Synxs .22 more then once (not luck), using an AGS 3-9x40 one piece mounted scope, as for dealers the only other in Yarmouth is Youngmans on Market Row, bought a lot from them in the past, but I buy more from here better value for money on the forum. Got my X20s from youngmans and it's a very nice rifle. Just bought a Hatsan 60s from A fellow member on here (after a sale fell through I got it :)). & I'd highly recommend the Hatsan over SMK Youngmans got Hatsan 55 -.177 or the 60- .22 @ £113 at the mo (new). if that's of any help to you mate.
     
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    SMK are importers, they don't make anything. The XS19 s fairly well made from reasonable materials. The B2 appears to be made by drunken chimps from empty toilet rolls and liquorice.
     
  9. Pinki Pete

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    I get the feeling you're not a fan,,,, :p
     
  10. Adam_h

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    As for dealers I would say I'd buy more fishing bits and a few acc's from Pownalls had several SMK over the years from them and as I've said the Synxs is IMO a good starting point (my wife loves hers). Youngmans offer better brands and are more a RFD shop then Pownalls are, there service and knowledge was better then Pownalls. But I will say ask around on here is a rifle catches your eye/ pocket in the sales section on here and buy off the forum, once you know what you want.
     
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    You'll struggle to find a fan of the B2 because of how it shoots,most people who recommend it do so as a way to get into tuning and modification.

    Spend another £70 more and get a Hatsan 60S, 1 step up from chinese manufacturing (Turkish ;) ) and miles ahead of the B2
     
  12. Adam_h

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    As your only round the corner from me if you'd like to try one of mine to get an idea your most welcome.
    the five I have are:-
    BSA Lightning XL 'Theo Gas/Ram conv' .22 (Springer) with Hawk Map Pro 4-16x50 AO scope.
    Beretta Stoeger X20s Suppressor .22 (springer) with Stoeger 3-9x40 AO P/A BDC scope.
    Hatsan Mod 60, .22 (springer) with 4x32 scope.
    SMK - SYNXS, .22. (springer) with AGS 3-9x40 Mil-Dot scope. (now my wife's riffle).
    SMK 15 junior .177 (springer), with 4x20 scope. (my sons first riffle).

    Catch up later got to take my pooch out for her night walks :).
    Regards Adam..
     
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    LIke I said, I only know what I have been told, but listen to what others have to say, From what I can gather it is much better made than some of the other SMK offerings.
     
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    Nowt wrong with a nice turkish made rifle, you young wippersnapper!:D
     
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    My mate stupidly paid fifty quid for a second-hand B2 (he's not the sharpest) and it was the worst bag of Censored ever. I'm not a bad shot but even with reasonable pellets I couldn't get a group at over ten yards that would fit on a dinner plate. Loud, harsh, inaccurate and unpleasant to look at; other than that, they're great.
     
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    I had reasonable accuracy with a b2 after a few throws I had it bang on and could hit the target with every throw of it :D
     
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    B2's are good cheap fun for cans IMO, I hated the bear trap on the B4 always made me feel like I was gonna lose a finger when ever I loaded. Both where fairish to shoot, but once you shoot another/ better gun you would never look back @ B2 /B4.
     
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    Much chortling!!!:roflmao:
     
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    As a collector of airguns for many years in my opinion the B2 has brought more people into airguns than any other airgun made....as a airgun it is poorly made but its CHEAP and that makes it a ideal starter rifle.....many of the airgun snobs on here wont admit to having one....me i have had 2
     

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