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Question good ones? and bad ones?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jamessuper10, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. jamessuper10

    jamessuper10 Engaging Member

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    Hey chaps:cool:

    iv been paying attention to some of the feeds on the forum and other forums, and the seems to be alot of convo about good pellets and bad pellets, could someone show me the difference between a good on and a bad on.

    like iv said many times before i have shot with "pellet guns" for many years and i have never thought to try and distinguish between good and bad.

    so any light on the matter would be great:D:up:
     
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    :up:good is a result :down: bad is a miss, worse is a wound

    its all about finding the 1 that does well 4 u :thumb:
     
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    I've messed about with loads of different brands.

    I now swear by H&N's Field Target Trophys, just took a little while to come up with the verdict.

    I'll be using them for the foreseeable future as I buy them in bulk, usually about 5000 at a time!!
     
  4. steve410

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    The most consistent and accurate pellet will always be the domed variety.
    Pointed pellets are not so good.
    Hollow point are good for close up vermin shooting.
    Flat heads are used for paper punching,as they make a bigger hole !!!

    See if you can try various makes of domed pellets through your gun,to see which is the best for you.

    Air arms field,Crossman accupels,Jsb exacts are good pellets to start with :up:

    Steve :)
     
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    I've got a sneaky feeling that James might be asking how to distinguish between a "good" or a "bad" pellet from the tin. The easy thing to look for is obvious damage, especialy around the more vulnerable skirt. The domed pellet is more aerodynamically stable, but only if the dome is uniform..check that too. More difficult to check is weight, size and balance, but all will affect the accuracy. You will have noticed that some pellets go into the barrel easier than others. It depends which one your gun is "set" for, but one will go closer to where you aim than the other.
    The easiest way is to get a pellet that is a known good quality generally and then you'll have less to worry about. There'll be more to follow on this I'm sure.
     
  6. jamessuper10

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    hiya all
    thanks you all for your input but Buzz has hit the nail on the head!

    i dont know if im the only one that has thought about this or not but do you not think that a hunting pellet "pointed" would be more auerodinamic than say a domed pellet just on it pointed shape, my mind would tell me that a small point would break through the air easier than say something that is nearflat and has a bigger surface area.

    this is just from someone who like to know the ins and out of every thing, i mean if you put a boat on the water and it had a sharp bow it would 1. cut through the water faster 2. have less drag on the boat. As apposed to a flat stubbly bow that would create a larger surface area causing drag and slowing it down!

    i hope i am making sense here:eek:
     
  7. sharpshooterpete

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    i get where you are coming from but i have no idea why pointed are not as accurate as domed. in theory it makes sence that pointed would pierce the air better than a domed but im not sure why it actually isnt more accurate than a domed pellet.

    all i know is that pointed are not very accurate out to longer distances so i dont use 'em.
     
  8. jamjon

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    pointed pellets are actually less accurate ever wondered why bullets are domed and not pointed it's because of the way it leaves the barrel it's put into a spin by the rifling and a domed shape responds best to this
     
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    thats a boat and they are 1/2 in the water and 1/2 in the air.

    look at a submarine;)

    [​IMG]

    dome shape nose.
    much more efficient in flight:)

    right building on steves pellet types i say stick to rounders at all times.
    if you want close stopping power get a .22 dome with soft lead.
    if you want penetration and stopping power .22 with hard lead.
    if you want long range performance then a heavy .177

    good pellets all depend on consistency and quality.
    generally the harder the pellet the less chance it will be damaged bus sometimes you need a soft pellet like in a barn shooting at close range.

    you will be able to see a good pellet and a bad one.

    try rolling them, if they rol nicley without jumping or roll at the same speed not randomly speeding up or slowing down they are good.

    stick to good quality pellet brands and look at the skirt as this is the only part of the pellet thats likley to be damaged in the tin
     
  10. a1gunner

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    sniper rounds are pointed

    http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?i...?q=.50+cal+sniper+bullet&gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off

    however they their accuracy may have something to do with the 1/2 tonne of powder behind the round!!!
     
  11. jamessuper10

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    hmmmmm:confused: i see the logic but... This is just me here! in my mind thin and pointy should be better but again i see the logic in the domed and i understand now! A1 you have to much time on your hand and you know to much!:up: good work guys you have help me clear that up:cool:
     
  12. a1gunner

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    shal i take that as a compliment?:confused:
     
  13. jamjon

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    there not actually pointed they just look that way it's actually a slow taper so you get a stretched out dome that looks pointed i've got a cabinet full of bullets and if you look at them closely the end is very finely rounded off
     
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    so its a sharper dome in other words.

    you need sniper rounds slighty pointed anyway as they are armour persing, piersing, erm, armor punch through rounds:confused:

    they do shizzle loads of damage either way!!
     
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    aeroplanes have domed noses helicopters have domed noses paper aeroplanes have pointed noses how many of those do you see fly straight a point is only aerodynamic if everything behind it flows to the same lines so with a pointed pellet it would need to be a cone shape in order for it to be effective. If you try and get into the physics behind ballistics it will send you mad. I like to question stuff to but leave this one alone i've tried it all you end up with is a headache and more confused than ever :D
     
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    your right it's a sharper dome but still a dome rather than a true point made that way to acheive more penetration unlike magnum rounds which are a very rounded dome made for impact
     
  17. a1gunner

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    just been doing some more searches and there are magnum rounds for .50 cal snipers but pointed domes are used most for long range penetration and velocity as its the speed that causes the most trauma as the bullet flys right through passing very little energy on itno the target.

    also, ive gone into the physics of it too.
    i havent a mathimatical brain but i understand the physics of it so i leave it at that.
     
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    I understand the physics of it but the usual laws of physics don't allways apply to bullets and pellets after a while it just makes my brain hurt
     
  19. a1gunner

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    its when you start taking enviromental factors into account that makes it fun:D

    now look at the Coriolis effect. now that so much fun!!!!:D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect
     
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    Look at it this way,if a pointed pellet is not perfect,that is the point is not exactly in the middle,then the way that it spins through the air,it will increase in ever increasing spirals.That is why when you fire them at paper targets you will get the POI high,low,left and right depending on what point of the spiral the pellet is when it hits.Pointed pellets are prone to being unbalanced.
     
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