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Good/bad deals/experiences

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Buzz, May 22, 2008.

  1. Buzz

    Buzz Banned

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    So as to clarify my statement in another post earlier without taking that thread off topic, I've opened this new thread to explain.

    On the 21st of December last year I bought a new Air Arms S410 Classic, along with silencer, scope, extra magazine, pellets, rifle slip and air bottle.....a total of just over £1000.
    I have to say the quality of the rifle is second to none, but unfortunately I can't say the same for the quality of customer service.
    I thought the rifle was loosing power and when I chrono'd it at 10.6 ft/lbs I wasn't very happy. I was even more unhappy when I found that the gun was riddled with anti-tamper screws AND even a shear bolt over the adjuster.
    I e-mailed Air Arms telling them of my problem and of my feelings about their methods regarding anti-tamper, especially as I was a mature, shotgun certificate holder that wasn't interested in owning an illegal rifle, merely one which was very close to maximum allowable energy.
    They replied saying I should return the rifle via my point of purchase and they would examine it and IF NECESSARY increase it's power, but it would be returned with the same anti-tamper measures as it has a present, quoting the phrase "Anti-Tamper Legislation" as the reason. I tried to find the "legislation" and couldn't, I did find anti-tamper "recommendations", but not legislation and funnily enough, neither could my Fire Arms Office. When I questioned Air Arms about this "legislation", all communications stopped...just no replies at all. I took the rifle to the point of purchase, they tested it and said it was indeed very much down on power and they would return it to Air Arms for rectification. That was 3 weeks ago this coming Saturday and despite several e-mails from me to Air Arms asking for an update as to the current status of the rectification, I've heard nothing.
    Now I judge a company not by how few mistakes actually happen, but by how they deal with the mistakes that DO happen and on this scale Air Arms seem not to give a toss about the customer once they have their money, their after sales service stinks. I'm out of pocket at this moment to the tune of over £1000, have a load of equipment that's totally useless without the rifle they have and don't seem the slightest bit inclined to inform me when I'll get back, that's why I will never do business with them again !!
     
  2. Buzz

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    I've just had an e-mail back from Air Arms....eventually...to say that there is nothing wrong with the gun. It's all my fault..the numpty that I am....as the gun has been over-filled and that is the reason it's down on power.
    All this is load of "ball bags" to use MOO's words, I have never over-filled it, but more to the point it shouldn't be able to be over filled if it's likely to cause this sort of problem anyway. On top of that, Air Arms have charged Euroguns £45 and they expect me to pay them. This is a gun that's less than 5 months old and the warranty doesn't mean a damned thing, as Air Arms can just say it's down to the user and you can't prove otherwise.
     
  3. steve410

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    The Air gun Centre in Essex has always been very helpful :up:
     
  4. jamjon

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    I'd like to recomend uttings i don't judge by mistakes but how there fixed and i've had a couple of things go wrong with uttings but on both occasions they went out of there way to fix it for me :up:
     
  5. a1gunner

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    JSR also have a good service.

    i bought a pair of their flip up covers off them and they broke.
    sent them bach and i had a brand new pair free.
    (had to pay the P&P but you can't complain)
     
  6. FXpoacher

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    Sorry to hear that Buzz!
    Bum deal.

    FX have a good after market service. Have heard here a couple of guys had a "loner" while theirs were being repaired!

    BSA Have been pretty good as well, and as FX now have the distribution rights in sweden, it can only get better.:up:
     
  7. a1gunner

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    you sure like FX dont ya:D
     
  8. EX Mod Cog

    EX Mod Cog Keyboard Hero

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    I saw an FX in Reading today, what a nice piece of kit! It was the Typhoon, very sexy it was :D

    Back on topic if you're in the Reading area, Thomas Turner Gunmaker are good people to work with.

    There's a place called Dowlings not too far away, although it's in the other direction and in another county, avoid that place ... over priced and you get what you see - a display model that everyone else has had their fingers all over!
     
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    Dowlings Fieldsports, very bad experience with them, in wycombe there's Marsh tackle who is my local shop, not overpriced at all. If you need a gunsmith in Wycombe area then I know a bloke called George who fixed the BSA for me, turns out he's well respected in this area. If anyone wants his number pm me.
     
  10. EX Mod Cog

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    I got my bipod from Marsh the other day, think it was Wednesday, never had a problem with them ... they're my local too :up: also got the S200 there, it was the cheapest price around, I saved about £40 so in effect the silencer was free :D
     
  11. airconace

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    Poor quality 88g CO2 cartridges on Ebay

    Bought 2 88g CO2 cartridges off Ebay, seemed OK at £6.50 each postage included, went to fit one in my Umarex Magnum 850 and found the neck/thread was too short.
    The cartridge would not stop discharging, the neck was long enough for the pin to break the seal on the cartridge but would not seal on to the gun.
    The seal on the gun has been damaged and has had to go for repair.
    Not the bargain they seemed - take care.
    The cartridges are black with yellow writing on them & "Made in Hungary by LISS".
     
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  12. simply james

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    airgun centre bags and kirkwoods bar uttings all give great service over the years.
     
  13. Borja1979

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    REVIEW OF A SHOP!!!!

    i receive call today from c&H weston as they have one of my guns to service and upgrade... the guy said will be 50 pounds... fair enough they told will be ready by monday.. i though is today is saturday thats quick just 3 days thats perfect!!! well............ that was 5 weeks ago and they call me today after calling them for 5 weeks asking what is going on with my gun! is being misplaced sir we are sorry is with one of our gunsmith..but we dont exactly know with who!!!! (well that is professional!!!) and today they call to tell me the gub is ready and will be 130 pounds!!!!! F@@k me!!!! thats a few pounds more than you told me....yeah welll we had some problems so is 130 pounds!!!!!! ?WHAT after u misplace my gun for 5 weeks!!!!
    GUYS DONT GO THERE PLEASE!!!!
    WHAT U WILL DO will you pay the bill, will youtake them to a small claim court!!!!
     
  14. FXpoacher

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    Allways ask for a written quote and with price and delivery date. If you did'nt get it in writing, there's not alot you can do except pay:(
     
  15. andy cowley

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    Good/Bad service

    Not so much good or bad service, but there's a gun shop in Rugeley, Staffordshire, where he charges like a wounded bull!

    I got burgled, and had my old webley vulcan stolen, he ended up charging me about £280 for a webley exocet, which I didn't like, as the barrell pump action was so strong, being new, that when you come to shoot, your aim is all over the place from the effort.

    Anyway, I went back to see if he could exchange it for a pre-charged model, and all he could offer was p**s-poor chinese rifles with CO2 bulbs in them. Even as a rookie plinker, I could see they were crap. He offered me less than £100 as part exchange.

    I took it to Bloxwich, Sporting supplies, and they sold me the Daystate PH6, plus £300, and I couldn't have been happier. It's just a bit crap having to travel miles to get a good deal. They also said that they call the bloke in Rugeley "Flogger!".

    There's also a Gunsmith on Walsall Road, Cannock, who did men a great deal on a Walther CP88 in Nickel. Highly recommended!
     
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  16. sumo

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    I wont mention the dealers name BUT when I bought my 1884AE Winchester I offered a 1872 blackpowder 25/20 Original Winchester in exchange for it.
    He told me it was scrap and would dispose of it for me at no cost,ok fair enough. 2 weeks later I get a call from a bloke asking me if I had any 25/20 cases spare cos he had just bought my old gun from my dealer for 500squid!!!!:eek:

    I was well and truelly shafted:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
  17. i8allthepies

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    The Airgun Centre

    Got to go along with Steve 410, bought my first PCP today from the Airgun Centre in Rayleigh, nothing was too much trouble - even though the shop was packed ( 2 guys from Doncaster, 370 mile round trip ). Good on you Pete, Steve - well pleased:up:
     
  18. norris

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    Air Arms replaced a barrel on my S200 free of charge within a matter of days.

    Webley have sent me bits and bods without charge and at times without charging for postage with three to five days.

    BSA repaired a Magnum 240 pistol within the week,pin came out of the trigger whilst it was cocked had to send it loaded could not de- cock it.

    SMK always given me fast service but had to pay for the postage and bits.

    AGS picked up parts from them but had no luck ordering bits from them.

    The Fenman simply does not and can not see it ever needing any parts/ bits so unlikely to experience Theoben service.

    And as to the no 1 aigun part dealer had problems with postal service.The personal service is 100%. The younger Mr.K. is the better to deal with.

    I can only speak as I can find.
     

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