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Gmail - Reports This Site A Possible Phishing Scam

Discussion in 'Forum software help' started by HW100Tuning, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    Any ideas why? Obviously I know it isn't a scam... just wondering as the message is annoying

    thanks
     
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  2. Readie

    Readie Grumpy Old Fart

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    We have a "Fishing" section....
     
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    Sky Top Poster

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    Gmail belongs to Google. Google want to rule the world. Anything Google is a security threat and possibly a virus, but most definitely a trojan - they want ALL your details and as much of your money as they can get.

    I won't let anything Google near my computer; phishing, data-mining, profiteering, tax-evading scum-sucking pigs.

    I don't like them either. ;)

    :alone:
     
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  4. That hurts

    That hurts Barely Active

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    I know there was a potential move to get a certain emoticon removed from here, but while it's still available ...

    Google = :handjob:

    Nasty insidious company who try and dictate to their users all in the pursuit of profit.

    Like Trev, you can probably tell I don't like them too.
     
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    I like their maps Sky, I can make the little man go up and down streets:). Bing Maps, I cant:(
     
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    This query came up some time ago, not sure that it was on Gmail but at the time Andy paid for a certificate notification gizmo what ever it's called a 'Green Padlock' in the URL slot, it's showing for me if that helps .. :thumb:
     
  7. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    I searched and most replies ont tinterweb says it's probably something to do with a certificate... It's no bother just wondering.... I guess it could worry some people though
     
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    Sky Top Poster

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    Google's extortion certificate has probably expired, so they're looking for more money by 'pretending' it's a security risk. :mad:

    I rest my case M'Lud.
     
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    it seems to me that some disgruntled ex member might have reported the address to gurgle as being a scam
     
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    monsta41 Donator

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    if you click the padlock you can see the certificate is valid
     
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    Simonix Engaging Member

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    I have used a hotmail account for about 20 years now (made it in a computer lesson at school).

    I never get any email notifications for anything on this forum. Doesn’t even register anything in the “spam” folder either.

    I guess it’s just the way it is....
     
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    Have you got a screen shot or can you be more specific on when you've seen the message?
     
  13. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    I agree but the message is from gasr#m@gmail.com :p
     
  14. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    gasram.jpg
     
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  15. monsta41

    monsta41 Donator

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    gasram is the forums email address
     
  16. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    ??? Yes I know (hence my original post)... I was making the point that even though gmail (google) are monsters etc etc even the forum is using it. :confused:
     
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    pbrown Honorary Member

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    In this instance it's because the recipient and sender domain are the same, flippin stupid. :rolleyes:
     
  18. HW100Tuning

    HW100Tuning Jaja Ding Dong

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    But not all of them get marked like that....
     
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    pbrown Honorary Member

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    Then a possibility is how the forum routes it's mail through Gmail.
     
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    The 'Green Padlock' on the site is produced by the SSL/TLS Certificate and managed by the forum/site manager. Not Google.

    The way these work is there's a chain of trust between multiple certificates in a hierarchy, and each certificate is digitally signed by either the next trusted in the chain, but ultimately by a Certificate Authority (i.e. RapidSSL, Thawte) with the root certificates for those authorities being installed on your device (computer/tablet/phone) as a part of the Operating System. These have nothing whatsoever to with Google and they cannot be removed or changed.

    When Google (Chrome) and other browsers load a site over a 'https' web address, they ask that server (in this case the server airgunforum.co.uk is on) for the sites SSL certificate/public key. The certificate is then validated using the root certificates on the device, they tell your device how to encrypt the traffic (how and with what cipher etc.) for security. This has nothing to do with this problem however and in my view, EVERY service transmitting or serving data should be secured with these certificates. Google did this en mass when they discovered the US National Security Agency were intercepting our emails and messages. They did it to secure your data.

    Ironically, the problem here is Gmail is actually protecting you.

    Gmail looks at the inbound/received email (gasram@gmail.com) and its content. It's seeing links in there and a whole varied amount of content/copy across different users.

    It then looks where the email originated from (there's a whole host of different servers/services/records/markers it uses) and attempts to verify and validate the sender and the sender's domain.

    In this case, it sees an email from @gmail.com when the email itself is referring to the airgunforum.co.uk domain, at the same the content refers to the airgunforum.co.uk domain and content. Therefore, Google is suspicious and thinks this is a phishing email. Much like emails from - for example - alan.hump374843@yandex.com but appearing in your mailbox as an email from HMRC asking you to fill out an online form for a tax rebate.

    The email from the forum should really be something like noreply@airgunforum.co.uk, then the domain matches the email address and Google can validate it as such. This is done using what they call MX, SPF, DKIM and TXT records which are added to the domain DNS records by the administrators of the forum/server, telling Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo etc. that the domain/email have been validated.

    This is an odd setup for the forum and will continue to cause problems with other mail platforms when they catch up with the AI mail technology Google use.

    I'm a Software Engineer - I didn't Google this.
     
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