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Gas Rams come of age!

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Accuspell, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. Accuspell

    Accuspell Pro Poster

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    Oh how Theoben were ahead of their time. 25 years ago they started building gas piston powered break barrel rifles. Even now people question their usability and efficiency, but if there was a barometer to gauge just how good a system it is, a host of the big manufacturers are now turning out gas piston models:
    Crossman
    Benjamin
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    and now Umarex.........I wonder if any of them will be built to the same standard of quality craftmanship that those Theoben rifles from their heyday were built to?

    It is interesting that while some airgun shooters poo poo the system, these big manufacturers are embracing the concept and developing new models around the gas piston technology using a short stroke piston to produce fast locktimes, reduce recoil and eliminate the spring torque.

    Maybe people in airgun developing countries are just discovering the joy that Theoben owners have known for years.:D
     
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    All I see is a lot of mediocre companies jumping on the marketing bandwagon by adopting a system of arguable benefits (and now no patent protection) to shift more gimmicky rubbish :up::D
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Heres mine. There's not much around to match it for build quality, accuracy or balance. If someone else fancies having a go at remaking them I'm sure they'd sell!
     
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    You've missed one out Accuspell, Diana have also got gas rams in their new line up, quality of craftmanship, there your best bet at obtaining anywhere near the level of Theoben's quality.
     
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    I for one am waiting with a great deal of interest to see what the Diana GRT will be like? We had a sneak preview from an airgungear video I think it was? Looked a bit tasty, but looks aint shootin' is it?
     
  6. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    He forgot HW oh he did, he very did, you can still buy the 90, oh yes, so you can have a German built British gas ram, you can, oh yes you can!
     
  7. Ichabod Armacost

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    That 'd be us then!..................
     
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    I wish that some manufacturer could get the gas ram system to work properly, I think it could be made to work with a few quid spent in r&d!!!!
    How hard can it be????
     
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    I thought Theoben did get it to work properly, and it's just that some people don't like the shooting characteristics of gas rams. I wonder whether those people really just prefer the limp wristed phutting of PCPs??:D

    Yeah I know, I's goin'
     
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    (Big bored sigh) when I say properly, I mean in the context of people naming the next gas ram a good replacement for a HW 77 or TX 200.... Etc
     
  11. Ichabod Armacost

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    Sorry I was being boring...............However, both would be a hard act to follow, I ought to be interested in buying one of either really, but for some reason, they just don't do it for me. Good guns, no argument, it could well be that I am just a weird old sod!:D
     
  12. JD

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    The Hw90 is in keeping with the original design, the gas ram is built into the rifle and not made part of it, by adding a sealed gas strut unit.
     
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    I think you'll find the SLR will give both of those a good run for their money. They are all far too heavy! They have to be, you are lugging around a second barrel, but one without much of a hole in it...except the SLR uses the under lever as part of the silencer to bleed off some of the pressure at the start of the can, and just at the muzzle. It also has 7 shots in a magazine, so fast to recycle. It is still too heavy. I wish my tuned HW77 25mm would shoot as well.
     
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    I suppose with Ian Anderson in your profile, you could well be right. You are just Living In The Past......or working Heavy Horses maybe. ;) Me? I am just on the Crest of a Knave. :D
     
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    Ian Anderson???? Go on, I'll buy it, I'll probably regret it, but I'll buy it anyway!:)
     
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    i was doubtfull over gasrams, but i have a webley tracker gas rammed and was shooting it for the 1st time today and its very sweet to shoot! not far off a professionally tuned springer! all things being well, i should have a gasram theoben slr98 with i think a heuda stock on Saturday ;)
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    theoben Gas rams were out before 89 more like 85 or 86 i remember the first sciroccos coming out just as i was getting into air guns and that was 84.
     
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    How thats work them Acuuspell ? I can't see how the silencer ports the muzzle blast into the underlever of a SLR.

    And all because your Hw77 does not shoot to your expectations, does not mean the 77 is not in the same league.
     
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    My Theobenised Superstar with adjustable, Theoben factory fitted ram is a brilliant rifle & to think BSA could have had it as a production model if they hadn't gone bust !!

    The adjustable ram in it is ridiculously simple but so effective & lovely to shoot :)
     
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    The supersport was pressure tested for the built in gas ram, but ended up as the spitfire ?
     

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