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Technical Fx Slug Liners (a Guide)

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Shoto1, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Shoto1

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    Matt Dubber has put together this interesting guide.

    It’s a long upload with plenty of detail.

     
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    Interesting video:thumb:
     
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    Those 100y groups were mind blowing, great video thank you for the share :up:
     
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    PW1 Shooting the breeze.

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    Great video, well done Matt, thanks for posting Shoto1

    Regards
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    Rattymcrattyface STRAP IN

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    I watch all that blokes videos and the AEAC chap too. Literally another world. Fantastic equipment and stunning power levels.:thumb:
     
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    Seen this earlier, very interesting :up:
     
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    I do wish someone would persuade him not to try to talk about anything to do with aerodynamics or external ballistics, Every time he tries it just gives more proof he apparently hasn't the faintest idea what he's talking about.
     
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    Miles,

    We are extremely fortunate to have you as a forum member; your knowledge and expertise in the specialist field of ballistics, has been of great value.
    I enjoy reading your threads, always coming away with a bit more information.

    I’m sure Matt Dubber would be open to correction and appreciate / benefit from your input.

    Is this something you would be interested in helping with? (if I can arrange it).

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I have written to him and offered help but he has completely ignored any offers.
     
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    That comes across as really arrogant. It's just as well he completely ignored you, otherwise he'd be working with someone who thought they were vastly superior to him, I've worked with people like that and it's not a pleasant experience. Looks like he's doing pretty well without your help though...
     
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    So he's saying that in SA you can have 30fpe .22 cal without a licence but you'd need a licence for a sub 12fpe .25 cal?
     
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    Anyone who knows me or has had any communication with me on pellet flight or external ballistics knows that your statement on my character is completely false. I do not think I am superior to anyone.

    Yes he is doing pretty well without my help but that does not mean that what he is publishing is correct or valid. I just don't like seeing people, such as yourself, being fed missinformation dressed up as scientific fact. If calling him out on that is arrogant then yes I am guilty.
     
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    That is disappointing...
     
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    Most interesting Anthony and is a route that I am thinking of going for my .25 fac Impact as I think the development going into slugs will possibly change fac air rifle shooting as far as hunting is concerned. I believe the FX slug barrel / liner is available in the UK now for just under £500 but I want to see just how well this whole concept will be.

    Phil
     
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    Mmm got to say i was quite excited at the slug concept to the point i contacted ASI last year to see when they will hit our shores.
    On reflection i’m now struggling to see how they would improve things for me.
    My .25 Impact is doing everything i ask of it up to say 90yds in the right conditions, slugs won’t rule out wind drift and given the cost of new liners, ammo, testing/tuning time it’s far easier to pick up the HMR if i want to shoot further.
     
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    As I understand it, the slug does handle wind better than normal pellets although I have not watched all the video fully yet so I am not aware if comment is made to that effect. H&N are developing new fac air slugs but not from their pellet production but instead from their live ammo production plant where slugs to fit in the bullet case are produced on a regular basis. I live on the east coast where we get plenty of wind which can be an issue so if the slug makes a difference, then it has my attention.
    Like you PP, the Impact as it is at the moment does all I want right out to a seriously good range, it is only the winds that mess things up a bit.

    I have both .22 magnum / WMR and HMR on my ticket but as yet I have not bothered with them so I must take some time out to test the HMR as my pal has one.

    Phil
     
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    I enjoy his videos, even if some of the information is flawed, it’s more than I know so it helps me to understand better what is going on.
    As for the slug liner,I won’t be getting one until a ready supple of quality pellets are available at a realistic price. Even then, I certainly won’t be using them for all my hunting, shooting birds high in a tree, with a bullet shaped projectile seems like an inherently stupid thing to do.

    As for the fx x liners, I am not sure they really make that much of a difference, same goes for the impact. Yes I have one on order but to be honest, if I were to buy one gun for fac it would be aRAW hm1000x in .25. Luckily, I don’t just have to have one gun.

    Bb
     
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    Lesley walmesley Nite hunter

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    Phil , slug liners are well under £500
    About £110 for liner I believe
    Only about £350 for barrel, liner and pellet probe
     
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    £110 for liner
    £15 for a bit of precision tube
    Pence to make a probe
    £20 for a tap and die
    Hour on the lathe.

    Job done
     
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    Well I must admit that I had a quote from Tony at ASI last year for a spare barrel plus mag and as you say around £350 but I am quoting my buddy who also has an Impact .25 fac who found them listed on a dealer site at £470 which was for a .30 barrel, slug liner and mag so I quoted his findings rather than my own on this occasion, sorry for wrong info.

    Phil
     
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