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Fx Dreamline Bottle Conversion Kit

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Coyote68, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Coyote68

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    I am really enjoying my dreamline lite for accuracy etc, however shot count for a day on the range could be better. Before I take the plunge and order the bottle conversion kit. Has anyone had experience with fitting an FX dreamline bottle adapter and new buddy bottle? I scoured online and cant find any videos or instructions, the best I can find is the dreamline CAD drawing on the FX site. From these diagrams the removal of the existing cylinder appears to be the most complicated part. I posted a question to FX support but haven't heard anything back.
     
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    I presume the cylinder is fixed? unlike the bottle which contains the valve assembly.
     
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    If you look in this diagram ( https://fxairguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/F10057-reservdelsritning.pdf ) everything from 1-7 is part of that cylinder assembly if I look at my rifle, there does not seem to be an obvious way of removing this without causing any damage to the regulator. Was hoping someone might have done it already and give some pointers, I have no intention to ruining a perfectly working rifle.
     
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    I would call AIRFECTIVE and ask Liam,
     
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    If it’s the same as the Wildcat then my guess is you have to undo the reg pressure gauge to bleed all the air out and then the air tube should unscrew. The reg, cylinder pressure gauge and fill adaptor is in the air tube so the bottle adaptor comes with all these built in and screws directly into the thread for the cylinder once you’ve removed the barrel out of the way. I’ve been keeping an eye on Krale for these but they’ve been out of stock forever

    https://www.krale.shop/en/bottle-adapter-fx-dreamline.html
     
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    hi Mart, does your wildcat not have the gold bleed screw on the side of the block? That way you don't have to touch the gauges? Ah wait, you've done the gauge conversion....same hole but not standard :D. Gotcha.
     
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    He’s on about the Dreamline which uses the same cylinder as the Wildcat so I was saying I think the procedure would be the same to remove it. I don’t have the Wildcat anymore Tim
     
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    You sold something? :D

    Is there no bleed screw on the Dreamline? They missed a trick there, it was very handy.
     
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    Cheeky :thumb:
    There isn’t one on the Impact either you have to remove the bottle and then undo the reg gauge to depressurise it afaik
     
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    You can just shoot it on the crown and Impact - usually about two shots and the reg depressurises (after removing bottle of course)

    The thing with the crown is taking the stock off is a ball ache due to the power wheel.....a simple U in the stock there would improve things so much
     
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    Thats certainly some expensive conversion. £400 for the bottle and the adaptor :eek:
     
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    I’m always a bit wary of firing against a depressurised valve I know you can cause damage.
    That’s the beauty of the Impact having the hammer adjuster exposed not having to mess about with the power wheel and safety removal
     
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    Which brings us back to the argument about the Dreamline concept costing money. The only plus side is eventually there should be a steady stream of spare parts doing the rounds on eBay etc
     
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    It is cheaper than a new gun though. I still reckon that once people have their preferred config, they won’t change it.
     
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    Thanks Mark, I spoke with Liam he did not have an answer but he dis ask that I update him once i have it sorted.
     
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    I would not have thought of loosening the regulator gauge, so a sound bit of advice thank you. I was thinking of dry firing with the hammer spring on "min" till empty and slowly unscrewing the air tube.
     
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    My other half keep telling me I spend to much on my air rifles, guilty as charged, but It depends which way you look at it, I could have have one of these (https://www.bestfittings.co.uk/shop...ries/airgun-charging-cylinders-steel-300-bar/) attached top my fill port when I bench rest which is £200 but it wont be that portable or practical, although my rifle would still be full after a few hours on the range. On the flip side an FX bottle adapter is £125 from Krale and a Best fittings 500cc Carbon buddy is £175, so for the practicality and portability I gain, I am ok with the £100 difference.
     
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    Surely a Dreamline with a bottle is an Impact???

    Dreamline Tactical.png

    Impact.png

    I'll grant you there is some slight difference but not a lot.
     
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    If they where the same FX wont sell the Impact for +/- £1600 and the dreamline bottle version for +/- £1100. The Impact is much more complex and tune-able than the Dreamline, where the Dreamline is focused on being modular ("lego gun") and although with some room for tuning not as much as the impact, the FX is focused on power (longer barrel options, higher power output) and tuning for those that knows enough to tinker and tune. Just a personal opinion, some people will probably disagree, but I will only buy the impact if I need an FAC air rifle option.
     
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    As above the DL is basic VS the IMPACT, the DL like the Crown is limited in volume and therefore potential power, but in 12FPE they are capable of exactly the same thing, basically nothing LOL!
     

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