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Future trouble for airguns

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jamjon, May 24, 2008.

  1. jamjon

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    How the hell would licensing stop it happening again, :confused: it won't stop someone getting shot. :shrug:
     
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    I've allready sent an email to the mirror bet they won't publish my comments
     
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    OK...licence airguns...I'm not completey against that, but, although I haven't got any figures to prove my point, how many injuries ending with permanent disablility are caused by say, walking into branches of trees or bushes (in the case of eye damage), how many from chainsaws or circular saws, how many from falling while climbing, trees, walls, ladders etc...how many drown from trying to swim where they shouldn't.....

    Do we licence them ALL ????
     
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    What annoys me about it is not the fact that there thinking about putting airguns on ticket but the fact that yet again we get a knee jerk reaction to another bleeding heart parents sob story about there personal loss don't get me wrong i'm sorry his child was killed but we didn't shoot him hitting out at us honest law abiding shooters is not the answer if his child had been hit by a car they would have banned the driver not cars so why not do the same with airguns. If somebody commits a crime with an airgun why not send there photo to all rfds to ensure that they are no longer able to buy guns and pellets and anybody that buys them on there behalf should be sent to prison if caught .
     
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    Wow, thought things were bad enough as they are. We should start some kind of anti-this campagn :up:

    If I ever get the money, I'm moving, this country's going downhill day by day, get that **** of a prime minister out of power, all he does is screw things up! :(

    - lower fuel taxes, make the money up some other way
    - leave airguns as they are, if someone wants to kill you they don't use an airgun, they'd use a kettle or something, hit you over the head, far more effective
    - give the public some slack and responsibility! We're not little kids!
     
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    DONT PANIC!!!!!
    There are 2 major floors in that story!

    1: It's in the Mirror, which lets face it, has a habit of blowing up a story if there's no other news to be had.

    2: It's brown were talking about here!
    he has'nt kept many promises has he?
     
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    Thats the problem it's brown he could completely ruin everything i don't mind them going on fac i just don't want brown involved in it
     
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    That blokes a joke, brown by name, brown by nature.
     
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    He's doing this after hearing one man's story ... that's what I call a "knee-jerk reaction"
     
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    not all of those cases have airgun related shootings, I’m sure that that Rays Lewis from liver pool was NOT shot with an air rifle of any kind

    also there was a report of a person surviving a shot to the head with an air rifle proving that they are not effective weapons and in a weapon to kill someone.
    obviously I’m not saying its safe to go play soldiers and shoot each other with them but no self respecting murderer will use a sodding 12ftlbs air gun.

    also the incidents are ACCIDENTS or are caused by IDIOTS that didn't take RESPONSIBILITY for their fire arm!

    the child died because they had got hold of a rifle and used it irresponsibly.
    it was their own doing and no piece of paper would have saved them.

    had the farther put the gun away or shown his son how to use it he would still be alive.

    air rifles are not weapons however accidents will happen if people are irresponsible.

    notice how the incidence nearly all occurred from children getting hold of the rifle when it should be keped safe.

    the incidents are because of blind stupidity, not lack of licences
     
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    Sorry mate, got to disagree with you there, it is a weapon and deadly as well.
    I certainly would not want to be hit in the head by one.
    Most incidents appear to be guns and ammo left about by irresponsible stupid people. Who on earth would leave a loaded gun under the bed with smal kids about. It's the stupid tossers who should be charged with something for being so dumb. I certainly can't see a toddler being capable of cocking a decent powered springer so the blame lies with the moron who left it loaded. My young teeager has trouble cocking the HW80,
    As for the youngster shot in Glasgow, the perpetrators would have shot at someone with anything they could get their hands on. The fact it was an air gun is really immaterial, they were cold blooded killers in the making.
    I wouldn't oppose an air rifle licence scheme, but who is going to govern it? Plod don't have the manpower and with so many in circulation it would be impossible to do properly.
     
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    You could only do it with new guns being sold, there are so many already in circulation that the people who wish to use them for crime, killing or whatever could get their hands on one relatively easily.

    A new scheme like this would just complicate things and inconvinience people :down: for this reason I bet they'll do it.
     
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    i would put a weppon down as a tool used for the killing on humans IE rifles used by the millitary.

    i would have the air rifle down as a tool for pest controll and targets.
    the air rifle was used as a wepon in the old days till it was banned as a human killing wepon by the pope.

    you could call it a weppon as it does have the potenital to kill a human.
    its up to you if you use it as a form of pest controll or a leather wepon.
    i would call it a fire arm over a wepon
     
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    better use my current air gun to rob a bank so i i can fix my boat and get the T10 before any laws change then:rolleyes::D
     
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    So why don't the shooting bodies call all the other guns weapons.

    When did you ever here the term (shot weapon) for a shotgun. :shrug:

    If an Airgun = air weapon

    Then a shotgun should be shot weapon, ask BASC if they could kindly call all other guns by adding the word weapon on the end in there articles. :D
     
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    A weapon is anything used to kill another being, whether it be another human or not, it doesn't matter.
     
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    a weppon is used as an offencive item to cause fatal damage.
    i'd call an air rifle a fire arm:up:
    does the same thing but its not to use on people which wepons are for
     
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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon[/ame]
     
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    already looked at that earlier:eek:
     

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