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Full disclosure, Im misleading my wife about this new (to me) HW77k

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Scott, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. Scott

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    Back in August this year while my club was working the have a go airgun range at Drumlanrig Castle on behalf of Scottish Association for Country Sports (SACS),
    I shot an early(ish) HW77k which belonged to the director of SACS and admittedly I fell in love with this little old rifle, it was just so smooth and easy to shoot.

    Little did I know at that time he was looking to pass it on.
    Chatting with one of my club buddies last week I mentioned that Id love to get my hands on a reasonable early HW77 like that one, he then told me it was up for grabs back then and I should contact him about it...
    So I did, it still was and it was going for a totally bargain price that I would need to be unbelievably thick to pass up on.

    I saw him today, money changed hands and I now own 1993 HW77k with the 25mm cylinder that I wanted.

    The stock is in very good condition for a 23 year old rifle, I'll be sending it to Nath92 for a bold colour change when funds allow
    The barrel possibly needs a re-blue but I'll strip it down and go ever the surface rust with tinfoil and oil first.... however i do fear the worst.

    The rifle needs a total strip, degrease, clean, a de-burr (possibly) and rebuilt with all new seals.
    Im very uneducated in this respect but Id like to mildly tune it at first until I know the rifle,

    Im looking at a TbT kit, but he does 2 kits with springs now and I don't think theres anything wrong with my own spring, it chrono'd at 10.5 with 14.3gr accupels
    so Im thinking of buying the cheap seats kit at £22 without a spring.

    My questions to you me fellow shooters are this:
    would I be better with the TbT kit with the new spring or don't fix whats not broke and leave the original spring in place?
    I know I'd be better replacing the piston seal, but which seals others do need?

    or is there a better route for me to take here?

    As to full disclosure, it was part of the deal when I bought my shotgun that I sold an air rifle, the Hatsan 60s is going up for sale next week
    my wife will eventually be told about the HW77, but as its a guilty pleasure that I knew nothing about when I first started shooting it will wait till the correct time.
    I was never barred from buying any extra rifles, she just stated one has to go and so one will go...

    Many thanks for your time and any advice shared
    Scott
     
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  2. green_rizla

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    Don't worry Scott most of us do it to one degree or another ..... and Full Disclosure is only really required in Court.:)

    Cheers
    Peter
     
  3. davymole

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    Stick with just a clean and a new piston seal and a relube,as for your telling your wife/partner should have come clean in the beginning.I have two men tell me yes I will buy it in regards as to buying a A/R then to tell me wife said No,
     
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  4. Oat

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    Don't worry, we won't tell on you.

    I'm sure you just forgot to add the pictures of it and will edit the post ..... ;)

    It sounds reasonably powered, so i would probably keep any work to a minimum - especially as you like it so much as it is.
     
  5. Squirrelking

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    Lucky man, was eyeing up 77's tonight but may have secured a MOD 430L instead. I'll say this though, you'll get on better for aftermarket parts to fit a Weihrauch than a Diana.

    I had no idea they did that sort of thing down at Drumlanrig, I just went down the other week to visit the bike trails for the first time, it's a nice thing they have going on down there.
     
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    If it's doing 10.5 and it's nice to shoot, just shoot it and leave alone (for now).

    The best treatment for any springer is use. Mechanical issues notwithstanding they tend to just get better as you use them, so just have at it.

    My last 77 was very used and I can tell you that few things are as satisfying as turning up at the range and knocking the kit tarts into next week with 'modest' gear :)

    My last one:

    [​IMG]

    Used to really cheese people off with that, shooting map pin heads as targets :cool:
     
  7. Scott

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    Hi mate, it was part of the Galloway country fair (http://www.gallowaycountryfair.co.uk) and SACS had a stand there.

    Given the advice, I wont open it up, I'll just put a scope on it and shoot it every weekend
     
  8. surrey shooter

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    Guess we know who wears the kilt in the sorby house lol.

    Shoot it and see how you get on Scott.

    the peoples champ
     
  9. Scott

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    I wear the kilt in my house Len, Im the boss :up:
    Michelle just keeps my balls in her handbag :eek:


    Anyways, to my new toy and the moment you've all been waiting for.....
    (cos like nobody has ever seen an old 77k ;))


    I fired a few through it yesterday at the club, but without a scope or open sights it was shotgun style....
    lovely smooth gun, just like I remember

    I skived off work early, came home and cleaned it and took some pics for you all

    Side Shot: (Isn’t this a beautiful rifle?)

    [​IMG]

    Serial Number and Calibre:
    [​IMG]


    And now to the damage.


    Light rust on the barrel:
    (Although it cleaned up very well with tinfoil and SM50)
    [​IMG]


    Receiver needs a good polish: (but isn’t going to get it)
    [​IMG]


    Stock Damage:
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    Grip Base Plate:
    [​IMG]


    I took the action out of the stock to check for any other surface rust and I think judging by the condition of the screw and the immaculate nature of the action that this was the first time it had ever been out of the stock.
    Thankfully there was no other rust, after I rubbed down the surface rust the action was given a wipe over with an oily rag and placed back in the stock.


    My plans have changed, I cannot in good conscience change the colour of this stock, its an old rifle I’ll defo send it to Nath when I have more money, but it will be for a recondition and maybe a lighter stain.
    Im not touching the internals of this at all, not until it absolutely needs to be stripped down…
    then I’ll polish the receiver and lightly tune it etc.


    One of my buddies at the club is loaning me his scope next weekend so I can start shooting it.
    Ideally Id like to pick up a period scope from 1993, but Im not certain on what was on sale back then.
     
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  10. Squirrelking

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    I have to say that's a good looking gun, congrats!
     
  11. Blackmax

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    Lovely Rob, absolute classic!

    I'd get the stock done by Nath but get him to do it 'original', I'd also get it re-blued and new seals won't hurt it, Aussie ones are very good.

    Be interested to hear what you decide to do.
     
  12. scarborough_flyer

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    if your wife is anything like mine buddy.... your screwed.....
     
  13. Jazzyboy

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    Lovely looking gun mate, as to disclosure I am not fit to advise.

    My missus doesn't know about the S400 I bought over 2 months ago tho she know's about the '97 I bought last week!!

    Too late to tell her about it now.:D
     
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    Front & rear sights £22.50 posted if tempted.
     
  15. Scott

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    Thanks Deejayuu, but my eyesight is terrible beyond 5m I definately need a scope on this rifle to enjoy it
     
  16. Kyska

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    I have a note in my gun cabinet saying on my demise Dr Kyska isn't to sell them for what I said I paid for them, nor is she to listen to my shooting buddies who would rip me off even if I were dead.

    true
     
  17. craigjohnmaz

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    Great rifle and beautiful lines, i was in the same boat as you a few months back except mine shot terrible with origional spring so switched out for a welsh willy kit, using just iron sights its accurate as anything ive tried and the kit transformed the cycle. They are certainly keepers
     
  18. Scott

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    It seems we have similar buddies :up:
     
  19. daveboy

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    You can buy Testicle seeds on the internet,
    Plant two of these and water everyday,Soon after you will have "grown a pair" and will be able to
    disclose your spending without fear.:D:D:D
    I did this years ago with my first wife but the seeds cost me my house(worth every penny)
     
  20. ukglyn

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    Great looking rifle Rob , I would of done exactly the same. I suggest you just treat it like the clothes that the wife has that you know you have never seen before, but when you ask if its new its just some old rag she has had for years. So when the good lady sees it just shrug & say, this was my first ever rifle brought new in 93. I always remember the phrase bullsh*t baffles brains.:D
     

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