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Free Ads Trawl V.2.0 - New And Improved Part 12

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by cloverleaf, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    A quick squiz at what's about, FWIW..

    Grand..?
    BSA Scorpion SE, £390: Not sale of the century, the scope's nasty, it has a few dings and personally I'd never entertain the idea of another BSA, but it doesn't seem badly priced for what it is.
    Gun Guard Hard Case, £25: I have a couple of these and they're good, sturdy cases; certainly better than anything new you'll get for sub-£100.
    Air Arms S410, £390: The (IMO) less desirable "middling" AT-spec, but has a nice looking bit of Walnut and appears reasonably priced if not bargain-tastic. @jimjamman..?
    Umarex "Walther" RM8, £325: Not that I'd touch one with yours, but it appears to be a reasonable price presuming it works as it should as in good nick.
    BSA Mercury, £85: Nasty, flawed rifles IMO but seems like a fair price if any collectors fancy a bit of nostalgia..
    Weihrauch HW35 "Custom", £250: Not necessarily a good price but interesting with it's period-correct Optima scope and aftermarket walnut stock - not seen one like that before..
    Webley Eclipse, £120: Initially looked like a good buy, although dafuq has happened to the butt? Not really collectable condition, but might make a decent plinker for vintage Webley fans.
    Webley Venom Cobra, £300: Not the greatest of guns but considering that an in-test cylinder is also included looks like a good price for a budget starter rifle. Top marks to the seller for their informative ad too :)
    BSA Cadet Major, £185: Very strong money and not mint, although it does look like an honest example in nice condition.
    Webley Axsor, £220: Seems like a fair price on the face of it, although potential buyers should tread very carefully given the lack of proper pics..
    Venom Weihrauch HW80, £1250: Undoubtedly rare if it is what it claims and looks nice for what it is, however I'd question whether anyone in their right mind would spend north of a grand on an HW80..
    Venom HW77, £1300: Same seller as above. Looks nice however again very strong money; especially considering that the stock isn't Venom and has been repaired..
    Air Arms S410f TDR, £425: Looks like a good price if all's as it should be.
    Falcon FN12, £250: Seems like a reasonable price for a cheap / starter / arguably collectable rifle..
    Air Arms S200, £180: Tatty but if it all works can't really complain given the price..
    SMK XS19, £50: Cheap and nasty, but OK for what it is and a good price for a starter / plinker considering they're about £130 new.
    Ripley AR4 and AR5, £2250 (pr): Not particularly cheap but look like nice collectable examples.
    Weihrauch HW80 Tyrolean, £475: Strong money but does look very nice..
    Brocock Concept, £250: Hardly the best guns in the world but looks like a reasonably priced starter PCP.
    Webley Premier, £250: Pricey buy looks really nice, although a shame that some bellend's written all over the box..

    Update 16/08
    BSA Meteor, £45: Admittedly tatty but might make a good project / plinker.
    Alros Trailsman and 400, £800: Not particularly cheap and evidently need some work, but arguably interesting and collectable all the same.
    Parker Hale Dragon, £200: Evidently needs work, has some cosmetic damage and is highly unlikely to sell for what the seller suggests, but might be worth a look if you're feeling brave. Probably a massive can of worms as they're notoriously fun to re-seal, although I didn't find mine too bad.
    Weihrauch HW99s, £165: I'd personally never touch another but it seems like an honest gun at a fair price..
    Weihrauch HW95k, £185: It's an older model without the mod and the stock looks tatty, but doesn't seem like a bad price for a project / beater / plinker.
    Skan R32, £800: Evidently not without its issues and priced at more than anyone's willing to pay since it's been on there for 4wks, but interesting none the less. Not sure I'm convinced by these later models with the drum mag and grip cocking though..
    Skan M32, £850: Another; furniture's not as nice as the one above IMO, and evidently nobody's prepared to pay the asking for this one either!

    Update 17/08
    Logun Solo, £225: Leaks but looks like a decent example. A bit over-priced given the leak but could make a decent budget rifle if you're handy with the tools and can haggle it down below £200..
    Crosman 140, £160: Not too familiar with these so can't say whether it's a good price or not, but it might be of interest to the collectors..
    BSA R10 Mk2: Usual caveat - wouldn't touch one with yours and it's the nasty "bull barrel" model; however it looks like a reasonable price considering it's apparently been sorted by XTX (which one would hope includes a Huma reg - well worth checking if you're interested!).
    Webley FX2000, £275: Looks like a decent rifle at a fair price, from what can be gleaned from the sketchy pics..
    BSA Scorpion T10, £265: On the face of it looks like a good buy considering the spec; although you'd want to check it all works as it should, while the cylinder and mod look too close for comfort.

    Update 19/08
    Falcon FN19, £180: Apparently battered and the accessories are more, but could be a decent cheap working gun.
    Falcon FN19 Hawke, £250: Looks like a decent budget buy on the face of it.
    Air Arms FTP900, £900: Potentially worth a look given the gear that's included and the suggestion that it's been sorted out by ISP. Would want a thorough accuracy test though as the re-crowned barrel suggests it's once had issues..
    Stalker Tiger 10(?), £125: Needs work, is incomplete, looks a bit tatty and the owner evidently doesn't know what it is. Not Stalker's finest moment and still a grotty BSA S10 underneath, but rare and potentially worth a few quid to the right muppet if sorted out and tarted up. Would probably take a punt myself tbh, were it closer and if BSA regs didn't make me a little bit sick in my mouth..


    Gash.
    SMK XS41, £210: Cheapo TX200 copy that's not a million miles away from the price of a proper one. Not sure where the "eco hunter" title came from - not going to get many search hits, is it?
    Gamo Coyote (x2), £1000:
    I suspect you'd get close to buying it all new for the asking; while the sale will be hindered further by the seller's decision to flog them together. About £300 over-priced IMO.
    Daystate Wolverine Forester, £1350: Another overpriced "limited edition". In addition to the price I can't see that the seller's decision to completely omit the make and model from the listing title is going to help his sale either..
    RWS LR20, £425: "Rare" for a reason as they're not particularly great guns. Despite being "priced to sell" I still think it's a bit more than it should be.
    Impact GSX, £900: Looks like a nice, boxed example and fap knows what it's worth in this market tbh; although the asking price seems excessive. I'd have though ballpark £700-750 would have been more appropriate..
    Hawke Airmax 4-12x40AO, £130: Not far off the price of a new one and presumably now has no warranty.
    Stoeger Atac, £250: "New in box" - although I assume it's not actually new. Although the price probably isn't far off what you'd pay for one..
    Webley Axsor, £490: Looks like a decent example but it's well overpriced for what it is.. would have thought about £350-375 would have been more appropriate.
    Original Model 43, £230: Very optimistic IMO.
    Daystate Saxon, £1950: Nearly two thousand pounds. Same seller as the Forester above and I think both have been on here for months - good luck with that!
    Daystate Mk4, £750: The non-IS version so well over-priced; about £250 more than it should be IMO.
    Air Arms S510, £1200: Granted there's lots included but most if it is fairly cheap. Can't be arsed to tot it all up but I'd have though around £800 would have been more realistic tbh.
    Daystate Mk3, £550: A lot of money for a base-spec Mk3 IMO; I reckon about £400 would be nearer the mark.
    Air Arms Jackal, £225: Aimed clearly at the collector, although I'm sure most would be put off by that camo wrap on the action (or more correctly the prospect of it hiding something horrible beneath). Worth more like £150 IMO.
    BSA Airsporter Mk1 & Mk2, £400: Neither look worth £200 tbh..
    BSA Centenary, £750: Another seller who can't grasp the importance of a proper ad title. Ludicrous money tbh.
    SMK XS79, £335: Lots of work done on it, but aesthetic is "subjective" and you could buy a much better "proper" PCP for that wedge. Also begs the question of why it's for sale considering that it's apparently the seller's "recently finished pride and joy". IMO pushing twice what he's likely to get for it.
    BSA Lightning GRT, £225: Nasty.
    Air Arms TX200HC, £500: Cack description and not far off the price of a new one. At least £150 more than it needs to be IMO.
    Artemis P15, £425: Surely not far off the price of a new one..?
    Weihrauch HW35, £225: Big money for a base-spec model with missing sights. This money should get you an Export model..
    Daystate Air Ranger, £750: Got to be around £200 more than it should be..
    SMK TH78D, £245: A lot of money for what it is - surely not far off the cost of a new one..
    BSA Meteor Evo, £100: Nasty rifles but can't complain too much about the price... that bipod though!
    Air Arms Camargue, £350: I know these are becoming increasingly collectable, but still - £350 for an old, crude sidelever. I'd have thought low £200s would have been more appropriate, but who knows what "enthusiasts" might be prepared to pay..
    Falcon FN19, £750: And the award for most deluded crack smoker of the year goes to... Price is about three times what it's worth, while the seller's claim that it's 4yrs old is utter horseshit, considering they stopped making these maybe 15yrs ago..
    Edgar Bros XVI, £480: A marginally-less-cack S16; worth about £350 tops IMO if anyone lacks enough sense to part with money for one.
    Logun S16, £450: Nasty, nasty rifles and this one's about £150 OTT IMO.
    BSA Airsporter, £190: A lot of money for one of these horrors - I'd have thought just over a ton would have been more fitting..
    BSA Lightning Tactical, £275: Ridiculous money for a nasty rifle; probably about double what it's "worth"..
    Air Arms Galahad, £1600: Granted has some other bits included but still, you facking what?
    Crosman 2250XL, £325: Bloody good job the seller's "open to offer" - that's assuming anyone sees his ad in the first place on account of the less-than-informative title..
    Weihrauch HW100BP, £1600: Granted if it all cost what the seller says it's not obscenely overpriced.. however the thought of spending such an amount of money at one of these (just look at it!) is a hard concept to swallow. Telling that it's up for sale so soon after being bought, too..
    "Hand Built Pneumatic Air Rifle", £160: b******s - that's a ghastly £70 SMK pumper in a DIY stock..
    Crosman Nitro Venom, £185: "Very hard to find" - probably because the rams on most have leaked, rendering them fit for the bin.

    Update 16/08
    Weihraugh HW85k, £550: Probably one to divide opinion. Assuming the scope's worth around £150 that leaves the gun at £400 which is pretty steep IMO. While in isolation I quite like this rifle I struggle with this recent trend for cerakoting / everything; especially old guns like this which I think lose both their value and appeal massively when irreversibly modified. Of course it's possible that the donor was a shed, but we'll never know and IMO an HW95 would have been a much better candidate..
    BSA "Essencial" Scope, £100: lol - worth £20 if he's lucky.. same seller also has some £40 ebay special rubbish up at £150!

    Update 19/08
    Benjamin Nitro Trail, £270: A ridiculous asking price for one of these fatally flawed, initially grossly-overpriced guns. Wouldn't give £27 for one tbh.
    BSA Scorpion, £750: Getting on for being a couple of hundred quid overpriced IMO.
    Air Arms S510TDR, £800: Not much less than a new one; the only difference being the addition of a cheapo scope in this case.
    Air Arms S400, £725: Granted there are a few bits included but I reckon it's about a ton overpriced..
    BSA R10, £850: About £200 OTT IMO.
    BSA R10, £595: Think the seller's p*****g into the wind tbh, given that it's both a Mk1 and LH. IMO at least £150 OTT.
    Daystate Saxon, £1850: Same seller as the one previously mentioned in this thread. Bloke's habit must be hemorrhaging him many hundreds of pounds (assuming he actually manages to sell any of his gear!)..
    SMK B45-3, £165: What a joker - these rotters were only £70 new. Also - "At 5 pumps this rifle will achieve 100 yard +shots" :handjob:


    So there we go, FWIW. Lots about but no super-bargains and not a whole lot that personally floats my (admittedly niche) boat..
     
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    Shame about the Eclipse, I think they're highly underrated guns myself, I'd probably offer £90 if anything could be done with the stock.
     
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    The P15 isn't actually a bad price bearing in mind it has the Mark Dempsey shroud on it plus the 4 Darko mags. Gun on its own is 485 down Countryway. I paid 425 for one last year but with addons it does start to add up a bit.
     
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    I’ve been watching the two venoms and the mk1 80 as I would love those three in my collection but you’d be looking at 3k ultimately for two hw80’s and a hw77 o_O errr no
     
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    Thanks for that:finger:
    Is that the best place to sell air guns??
     
  6. Flying wombat

    Flying wombat Once more balance is restored

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    :laff: classic :laff:
     
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    Another good 'un Mike, especially the Crosman 2250XL - think the seller's spell checker must have gone wrong :

    If you are looking at this you know exactly what it is it is if you do not it is a highly customised Crosman 22 I've just fitted a new scope works as it should I expect it could do with the service because it's been in my bag for over a year what you see in the first photo is what you get the gun the scope the bag some pellets excetera excetera

    I've just run 'excetera excetera' through my checker and the top suggestion was 'excreta' which is a far more apt description of that abomination :D
     
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    that is a very helpful review :thumb:
     
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    sagalout All the kit still ....

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    The leather case for the HW bullpup looks like a cardboard box to me :)
    LeatherCase.JPG
     
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    Thanks mike but now sorted .
    Got a real nice 410f
     
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    Jagdwaffen Suns up guns up

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    An excellent review Mike as always of what's half decent and what just stinks..:thumb:
     
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    Not 100% sure the Venom 80 is Venom. Not saying it’s not, and it may well be, but something about the stock, maybe the grip chequering pattern, has made me wonder. If I were interested, I’d want provenance (posh word for invoices and other proof). And I still would balk at that price, especially for a basic Stage 1 tune and HW bluing as opposed to a Lazaglide and Venom blacking.

    Pretty sure the tyro 80 is not a factory one. Looks like an 80s CS600 stock. Which is a nice thing, but more like £300-350 of nice thing than £475.
     
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    Cheers guys :)

    Have added a few more today, FWIW..
     
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    "Phew" im not mentioned, must be too cheeep
     
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    :handjob: He does talk sh*te
     
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    As usual Mike a great read and I love your values and comments to some absolute dreamers and bull 5hiters. Keep it up never fails to bring a smile to my face. :laff:
     
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    For the buyer to ponder on and speculate,how much they wold be worth in years to come,99p each not the £650 quid he blaged you for,also defiantly been on the air smiths bench being the first two in the country :rolleyes:,the duck tapes worth a few bob being American imports o_O,great review as always,enjoyed the read:),mike
     
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    Those two were in Holt’s 27 June sealed bid sale. Estimated hammer prices were in the £60-120 range, IIRC.

    If it looks like an unlicensed dealer, walks like an unlicensed dealer and talks like an unlicensed dealer.....
     
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