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foxes and land clarification

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by nath92, May 18, 2014.

  1. nath92

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    Howdo chaps first time posting in this part of the forum, so without boring you too much I hope ,after approaching a land owner to shoot air rifle on his land he said no problem but after a quick chat he expressed bother with foxes taking lambs and chickens so he asked if I could use the shotgun , my question is about land the field is not the largest but on its east boundary it has a chemical works obviously I would not shoot in that direction but how far do I have to be away from this place or would shooting fox on this land with the shotty be a no no basically I'm asking as all my shotgunning has bin done in huge fields with nowt around for miles apologies if my question appears vague

    Cheers
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  2. r10hunter

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    As long as no shot crosses your boundary you could shoot from the fence line legally.
    Think about baiting them to a point where they are best to shoot for you. Rather than calling them where they can come from any direction.

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=179024
    Night vision can be a huge bonus too for shotgun fox shooting.
    Good luck.

    Cheers Andy
     
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    Cheers andy


    I've bin baitin the area for the past few days every other day just wanted to be sure on boundries and that
    Guna have a read of that link also


    Cheers
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    You will get more hassle with a shotgun due to noise etc , than anything else & for distance shot over 55yds thjere just...........poo ! ..Get intouch with the FLO in your area, & get a land check . Hopefully get a 22H , if applicable, will do the job with ease .
     
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    It all depends on terrain location and amount of cover. Used in their correct places rifles and shotguns work great for fox control.

    A small sheep field next to a chemical works sounds the typical place for a shotgun to me. Depending on degree of risk you are able to reduce shot size and range for safety's sake something you can't do with a rifle.

    We have places where we drop down to 64 gram of no 3 due to sheep in the same field roads houses etc.

    We kill around 60 foxes a year about half and half between shotgun and rifle. With a few snared and trapped.
    Shotguns can be made to kill foxes well out to 70 yards plus. But a 31/2 inch chamber and specialist chokes and cartridges are required.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Cheers again Andy

    The land in my opinion isnt right for a firearm that said I've never shot one (wouldn't mind doing ) so i dont exactly have an experieanced opion where they are concerned Gina see how I get on with the shotgun I'm going on Saturday so will report back cheers chaps


    Atb
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    I killed my first fox last night!
    Really don't like them, I'd like to give it the got down commando style with the wind carrying my lynx smell the other way then lined the cross hairs etc truth is he run infront of my lorry! At 44t I wernt about to stop on a sixpence
     
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    I bet you did someone a favour!! We have a main A road that runs through our shoot and the truckers do us a few favours every year :)
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Wii update fellas well not so much so, set misel up before first light last saturday got on the tenterfield whistle within ten mins a bigun appears bout hundred yards out no further response with the tenterfield so out came the rabbit squeal it approached a bit more but not close enough for the shotgun unfortunately so back out again this coming Saturday with a better set up hide and will see how I get on cheers all

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  10. r10hunter

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    Hard luck!!!
    All areas are different but a couple of things I would do differently are go in the evening rather than the morning.

    You can get into place without so much chance of the foxes being about and hearing or seeing any disturbance. Also foxes will often call better if pressure is on to find food if they have had a good night hunting they may not call so well.
    Just as the light is starting to go is often the best time for me. Be all set up for night shooting though so you don't need to clank around once dark.

    I don't use a hide just get stood in a hedge etc. I use a very long sling on the shotgun so that it hangs horizontally at waist level and I can lift the gun and shoot without taking the sling off. My NV spotter has a lanyard so I can drop the unit and switch straight to the gun and lamp.
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    If shooting in daylight or half light it helps to give the fox some thing to look at.

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    This is one of the commercial spinning lures I have added a cat toy too. ( change the white tail as it gets dirty. You can get the white fluffy stuff from craft shops.)

    There will be serious numbers of foxes around in the next few weeks the cubs are just starting to head out on their own
    Best of luck.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Andy

    Cheers for taking the time on that mate some bloody good tips there which I shall put into practice ,also im in the process of FAC application so if range persist being a problem hopefully I can be cleared for a .223 and get the job done with that , shall crack on with the shotgun in the mean time
    Atb
    Happy hunting
    Cheers again
    Nath

    By the way nice setup you got there
     
  12. r10hunter

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    No problem.
    Whatever gun you take out it will always be the wrong one anyway :).
    When you have the .223 the foxes will walk straight in front of you where there is no backstop, and when you have the shotgun they will be 5 yards too far away for the shotgun sat still taking in the night air with a perfect backstop, that's fox shooting.
    Good luck with the shooting and the fac application.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Thanks and thanks again bud :) and knowing my luck what you said will ring true haha


    Cheers
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    Andy you sure have made me want to keep my Browning maxus 3.5" mag, and put a scope on it like yours and get some foxes shot with the big boy cartridges lol
     
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    Lol. Stood in a hedge half the night getting eaten alive by midges then when you pull the trigger it nearly breaks your shoulder. You must be nearly as mad as me lol.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Ive been doing that lately anyway mate

    After carp stood in the dead of night with a fishing line in my hand waiting for a tug lol.

    Foxing would probably be productive but its the noise I wouldn't want, especially near the farm it would set the dogs off barking but like you said its nice to have a 3.5" handy just in case you ever need it, with a pest fox that someone needs shooting there are plenty around these parts that's for sure.

    At the end of the day Its not up to me to control the foxes and I like multiple shots so Ill leave it to someone else but Im plenty mad for it if it needed doing, always doing something at daft o clock, missus swears Im having an affair, chance would be a fine thing though I keep telling her the only tug I get is on the end of my fishing line unfortunately ;):D
     
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