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Flood prevention or Faster trains

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Dag, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Dag

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    Over the weekend I heard that the flood prevention measures in the Somerset area have a budget of £2.5 billion a year and that the environment agency has no more money to spend on it than that.
    How does any government justify spending £46 billion on a train line just to get business men 20 minutes earlier to Birmingham and areas North of that?
    I haven't heard anyone in the cabinet even suggest that it might be a better investment to spend all those billions protecting people's homes and businesses from flooding!
    Dag:mad:
    Mrs Dag says I have misheard the figure given for Somerset, she says it was £2.5 Million not Billions....makes it even more disgusting.
    By the way I'm not just thinking of the problems in the SouthWest, we have serious issues a half mile from where I live as the River Mole bursts its banks again! There are plenty of other areas that could do with more money as well before they build the new giant train set!
     
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    I'm guessing that the flood-prevention pie is not as attractive a pie to have one's dirty little fingers in ans the HS2 pie... I know it's cynical, but look for the money. That's where you'll find the reason for 99% of political decisions.
     
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    Betcha there have been lots of Tory chums busy buying up land where the new train is to run for peanuts knowing the governbent will have to " compulsory purchase" it back at a tidy profit
     
  4. Jackroadkill

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    Won't just be Tories either; it was "red" Ed's lot that proposed HS2, I believe.
     
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    Added this as an edit to first post:

    Mrs Dag says I have misheard the figure given for Somerset, she says it was £2.5 Million not Billions....makes it even more disgusting.
    By the way I'm not just thinking of the problems in the SouthWest, we have serious issues a half mile from where I live as the River Mole bursts its banks again! There are plenty of other areas that could do with more money as well before they build the new giant train set!
    Dag
     
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    As I understand the HS2 plans the journey should be quicker but the stations will be further from the city centres than the current ones so total journey time is likely to be longer. Can't see how it's worth doing at all.
    The budgets for the sort of maintenance that would reduce flooding risks has been badly cut and this applies across the board, the Environment Agency and highway authorities have all had their budgets slashed and little or no routine watercourse cleaning is now carried out. Work is only considered when something 'breaks'. Ditch and culvert cleaning doesn't get a look in when new traffic signals or town centre block paving can be done instead. People need to make it clear to their elected representatives, at all levels, what they consider should be priorities and vote accordingly.
     
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    We don't need ditches and culverts cleaned in Surrey let alone emptying drains or removing debris from drain holes before it rains.....no, we have potholes everywhere that can take tons of excess water!
    Dag
     
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    Unfortunately standing water on the road surface does contribute to surface damage and once a pothole starts it rapidly gets worse if water freezes. The asphalt is fine until you start to get water in it which gets between the layers and then frost forces them apart. With all the cuts in spending on highway maintenance it's no surprise that the roads are in a terrible state and the cost of putting them right is rapidly increasing and,as far as I can see, the chances of any real improvement are virtually nil. If you see a pothole (not too hard) then you should report it to the county council who probably have a form on their website for doing that. They will have a policy for reparing them based on how bad they are but since they don't have as many inspectors as they used to they don't get found as quickly by their staff. If a pothole is reported and not repaired within a reasonable timescale then the county council will be liable for damage caused to vehicles hitting it and if its full of water you can't tell how deep it is.
     
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    If it were up to me I would can the HS2 and spend the money on fixing our countries flood defenses and other problems!

    Under the circumstances withdrawing foreign aid and diverting it to fix our sick and ailing country would also be in order.

    If you are sick yourself how can you care for others?
     
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    HS2 is just a giant vanity project; a lamp-post piddling competition with other European countries. Everyone has video conferencing now anyway - who the hell needs to pay over a hundred quid to take longer than it does now to get to Birmingham from London for a meeting that could be done over the web?

    Madness.
     
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    What about all the young boys & girls who want to become 'Train Drivers' :confused: ......................... :coffee:
     
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    Behind you! Mwhahahahah Just kidding. Christchurch
    Any aid that is being given to any country with its own space program or growing military capability needs to be diverted back to the UK for good in my opinion....we are always at the front in helping disaster struck countries around the world with aid yet seem to not give two figs for our own citizens.....

    The 2-3 million that could have saved all those thousands of peoples homes, possessions and local businesses is nothing compared to what we squander on other stuff.....it is almost criminal neglect...if such a thing exists.

    What we need is a revolution :eek:
     
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    HS2 is a project set to be out of date when completed....who wants to get into london 20mins earlier .......better of investiing in high speed internet for all
     
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    Get back to the 1950's mate.....
     
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    We certainly don't need to be giving aid to places like Argentina, China and Indonesia...
     
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    Well, Mr Cameron has now said "money is no object" we'll see. Infrastructure in this country is bound to be an election issue unless apathy sets in before the General Election.
    Dag
     
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    Well HS2 ruins the village I live in so yes I totally agree. Forget the trains, in 30 years time . knows how advanced technology will be, no need to travel for meetings etc.
    Protect people's homes and businesses
     
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    Scrap HS2, give me a couple of million £, so I can sod off to OZ, hear there is lot's of rabbits, & the rats are massive, think they jump, not run.:D
     
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    im in when we starting i hated thatcher and i hate her love child who's cocking our country up now !!!!!!!!!!
     
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    This is what I said since HS2 was tabled. High speed internet - nationwide; would allow people to work/run a business from almost anywhere. This stops homes in villages getting bought up as holiday homes, cuts down commuting, frees up roads and stops this insane "house shortage" which there isn't - if there was where are the millions and millions of homeless people? Not everyone can own a home - its a fact of life. Stops the houses being built in flood plains.

    HS2 - outdated and worse still is the desperation some towns are campaigning to be put on the route for a stop. For example - HS2 from London ... stopping at Oxford, Birmingham, Stoke, Crewe, Manchester ... might as well make it a normal train then? Stupid stupid stupid.
     

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