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Firtst Focal Plane, Glad I Made The Switch?.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by waisted skirt, Jan 22, 2020.

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Would you purchase a scope with a first focal plane again?.

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  2. No

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    24.3%
  1. waisted skirt

    waisted skirt Donator

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    Thinking of purchasing a scope in the First Focal Plane that will be used for a mixture of target work and hunting. It would be really interesting to read the opinions of members who have used or are still using such a scope. It would be especially interesting to read about what you like and what you don't like and why you ultimately decided to keep or sell . Thanks for your replies and opinions guys.
     
  2. jb37

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    Old eyes big recital what's not to like
     
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  3. Rm29

    Rm29 Currently obsessed with silencers

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    I only now have ffp scopes... Some people like them some don't....

    I like the size of the reticles, however they do get small at lower mag..
    I like tee fact that I don't change holdover etc....
     
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  4. ThirtyAughtSix

    ThirtyAughtSix Engaging Member

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    I would just add that I think MilRad is also way better than MOA. I'm happy with my FFP scope and would definitely have another.
     
  5. shumba

    shumba Well-Known Member

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    I have only ever used scopes with a second focal plane, so that the fixed size reticle can be used as a basic range finder. I cant quiet grasp how a first focal plane scope with a reticle size that is dependent on magnification would be any advantage.
     
  6. exur77

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    I currently only have FFP scopes and I won’t go back to SFP. I think the reticle thickness at higher mag is perfectly suitable for airgun ranges (up to 70m or so depending on capabilities). A major factor is your eyesight. I can still see most details clearly at the lowest mag. If you don’t need holdover/under at the lowest mag The reticle acts more like a plain duplex or fine line which still aims very nicely as the centerpoint of the reticle is clear and sharp.
    Also, I only find my reticles to become a little thicker from 17-18x and beyond compared to the modern, very fine reticles. But nothing to worry about nor is it too thick. More like the older thick mildot/duplex reticles which where found on cheaper scopes. Many still use those thicker style reticles on sfp scopes..
     
  7. exur77

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    I can see the advantages for hunters and hft shooters etc.. for target shooting I find it very pleasant to have the reticle grow when I zoom in on a small target. The target actually appears to be bigger then! Which makes it easier (for me) to aim at a smaller point. Whenever I now look througha sfp scope I have the feeling that the targets appears to be pfurther away only because the reticle doesn’t grow.
    Might sound silly but I’d say give it a try and do the comparison.
     
  8. Teuchter Boy

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    I am a recent ffp convert having two ffp Sidewinders, one on an fac airgun and the other on my rimfire. Took a while to get use to them but wouldn't go back as fantastic to be able to fiddle with magnification whilst out hunting without worrying about holdover maths. Still use sfp scopes on the rest of my airguns due to simple economics, swapping them all over might alert the wife as to the actual cost of my "hobby".
     
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  9. Squintykid

    Squintykid Busy Member

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    I put an FFP scope with MOA ret on my FAC and haven't looked back, never got on with the varying aim points of mil-dot and SFP.
    Now I work on one scale whatever the range or magnification.
     
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  11. Thermionic Valve Tech

    Thermionic Valve Tech Engaging Member

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    FFP mildot reticle and 1/10 mrad turrets.

    What's not to like? Couldn't go back to anything else now, it's a game changer.
     
  12. mmamonster

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    Brought a Falcon at Christmas, will be buying another soon as the ffp are alot better for me.
    Atb
     
  13. Chouchin66

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    Aztec Emerald FFP, Brilliant for longer rage pesting/ varminting... Illuminated ret. to boot... Great glass = many victims. ( only one crib sheet required)

    .
     
  14. The Robin

    The Robin Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    I have two Falcon ffp scope and I like them alot ;)
     
  15. bucketboy

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    Got one, don’t want another


    Bb
     
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    That hurts Barely Active

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    Only run Falcon FFP and probably will never go back
     
  17. Jagdwaffen

    Jagdwaffen Suns up guns up

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    Lightstream 4-14x44 FFP .....outstanding glass and I’d have one on every rifle I own if I could find them.
     
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  18. StellaArtois Sr

    StellaArtois Sr Springer Whore

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    I had to try a FFP out and I bought one which had up to 15 X Mag. At the time I only used Springers and couldn't wait
    to try it out. Well to be honest it's a complete waste of time. I only shoot Springers up to 14 X Mag and at the range once set
    it never changes. So in this case it is of no difference for me to use a FFP or a SFP scope.
    Then I moved to the dark side and bought some PCP's. I bought a huge magnification FFP scope for both of my HW100s. I can
    use the PCP's at 26+ Mag and again once set it doesn't change. The best thing about them though at such high mag I don't run
    out of Mildots and have to shoot and guess were the aim point is (in the post), so that is a great positive. At this high magnification
    the downside is I can't miss anything and shooting for me at these high levels soons becomes very boring and unchallenging.
    When I bought my 2 BSA R10s I did buy very high Mag SFP scopes with a large amount of midots. So now I can use them at 20+
    Mag and still have more than enough mildots for 60 yards. I also find them more challenging to use and that makes it better for
    me, although using a PCP still makes it to easy for me.
    You say you are going to use it for a mixture of target and hunting, so in that case you will be changing the magnification. I can
    then can see the advantage of a FFP in your case. It hadn't even crossed my mind to use it for hunting, but again I only use that at 6 X mag all the time.
    I am thinking of selling the FFP scope as I don't use it and to be honest I am not sure if it is even on a rifle now. If you are interested
    I can dig it out and give you the full spec on it. If my memory serves me right I think it's a Nikko Sterling, that shows how much
    I have used it.
    Ade :thumb:
     
  19. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    Sold it due to:

    1. Not really needed at air gun ranges
    2. On it's low end power levels the gradients are too small to use anyway - so only suitable at the high end magnification
    3. As the above, the bigger the magnification ability the worse this gets - so 3-9 might be fine, but 6-24 is awful
    4. I prefer to see a consistently sized reticule every time I look through the scope
     
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    Tried 2, now gone back to sfp
     
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